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Re: Experiences with public schools in Basel?

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If you can't understand what people are trying to say, then don't bother responding. It makes you look really dumb.
Are you really really sure your offspring is that gifted? 'Cause if it is, you need to learn a thing or two about genetics and gene inheritance
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Old 03.06.2019, 21:06
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Are you really really sure your offspring is that gifted?
Gift in German is poison, just saying.

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Old 03.06.2019, 21:34
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Re: Experiences with public schools in Basel?

Thanks for sharing your point of view, greenmount. I don't disagree that social skills are very important to develop in all children. To me this is a given already. My argument is that on top of the basics some children require more intellectual stimulation than others. Even according to the Swiss Teachers Association LCH, the needs of the top 10% students are not being met in the Glorious Swiss public schools. Here is their recent position paper on this topic.

I think one way to gauge the performance of the school system in a country is to look at their final product. The Credit Suisse Youth Barometer survey recently described the Swiss youth as "predictable and boring".

So it is not just the academic mediocrity that the Swiss public schools promote in their students - they fail to promote an entrepreneurial mindset and motivation to pursue novel things in life.
It looks like the system here is set up to have a deficit of highly educated and motivated people that are then imported for free from abroad. Not sure this is a sustainable model in the long term.



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Almost everybody here is a foreigner, even though some of us do have a Swiss pass.

I don't understand what's the point of this conflict. You've stated that the Swiss public education system is mediocre and smart(er) kids can't find their place in it. Many disagree with you, but you are not the only one who thinks along this line, I've read (and heard) this opinion many times before, here or elsewhere. Here's how I personally see these thing: lots of kids are smart. They really are. But kids also have to learn to socialise, share, solve conflicts, build confidence in themselves. I'm afraid that (some of) these schools lack this kind of soft skills and the kids are put in a very competitive and demanding environment too early. I do have mixed feelings to be honest, I realise they do learn faster and more. But what's the net gain if a child is unhappy and feels insecure? An advanced curriculum does not guarantee a well-rounded personality or a pleasant environment. Of course, you may not agree with me and it's your prerogative, but I would really check out if these schools do cater for every need a child may have. I wish you good luck and hope you won't be disappointed.
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I also remember this profound quote from somewhere:

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
You already posted it a couple of hours ago, your memory isn’t up to much if you can’t remember what you’ve already posted.
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You already posted it a couple of hours ago, your memory isn’t up to much if you can’t remember what you’ve already posted.
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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
You seem to be the expert on beating it.

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Old 03.06.2019, 22:09
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It's on purpose. Research shows that stupid people learn best by repetition.
It’s clearly not working for you.
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Old 03.06.2019, 22:50
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It's on purpose. Research shows that stupid people learn best by repetition.

Guess you must be a slow learner then
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It's on purpose. Research shows that stupid people learn best by repetition.
Ah. I see.

Kinesthetic learning is highly effective for most folk tbh. However, anecdote alert, one of the brightest (on paper) people I ever met couldn't wear lace up shoes because he couldn't tie them.
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Ah. I see.

Kinesthetic learning is highly effective for most folk tbh. However, anecdote alert, one of the brightest (on paper) people I ever met couldn't wear lace up shoes because he couldn't tie them.

Was that Captain Obvious ?
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Re: Experiences with public schools in Basel?

Good thread.

I am also concerned about my gifted child. She will be born in a little under 3 weeks, but from her movements, it is clear that she is a genius, and extremely sporty.

I want to make sure my prenatal polymath is sufficiently challenged, so one day, she can reach the sacred heights of being an entrepreneur. There really is nothing better to do in life with all your genetic gifts than eke out a niche in the market, maybe selling marginally different toilet rolls to infirmaries or a very slightly different hair net to your local school canteen. The possibilities are endless.

So, with all that in mind, one very important question I should ask - does the Zurich public school system teach maths? Thanks for all opinions.
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This must be the dumbest comment ever. Even for the EF standards! Wish your daughter good luck. Growing up to ignorant parents won't be easy for her.
I think you misunderstand. I wasn't looking for you to adopt her, but thanks for the offer.
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Re: Experiences with public schools in Basel?

Looks like someone deleted a post after getting owned by an ignorant parent-to-be.
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Looks like someone deleted a post.

Or it was deleted..... for trolling and insulting?
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Looks like someone deleted a post.
Unfortunately for him it was already quoted before he deleted it.

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Or it was deleted..... for trolling and insulting?
In that case some of his others should have been deleted too, they were just as bad.
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Or it was deleted..... for trolling and insulting?
Personal deletion I reckon - the rest of CO's nonsense is still in the thread!
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Personal deletion I reckon - the rest of CO's nonsense is still in the thread!
Don't get your knickers in a twist. It was a double post and deleted one copy.
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Don't get your knickers in a twist. It was a double post and deleted one copy.
Nope, neither of them are there now.
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Don't get your knickers in a twist. It was a double post and deleted one copy.
You deleted both copies in that case, chum.

I'm reminded of a quote I once read, don't remember where...

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
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Re: Experiences with public schools in Basel?

Insulting posts have been removed, yes.
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