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Re: Experiences with public schools in Basel?

Btw, this thread is one more sign that some people get banned after one merely tasteless post, others, for some odd reason keep on littering the forum with massive amounts of BS and nothing happens.
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Btw, this thread is one more sign that some people get banned after one merely tasteless post, others, for some odd reason keep on littering the forum with massive amounts of BS and nothing happens.
Cry me a river!
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Old 04.06.2019, 11:20
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Thanks for sharing your point of view, greenmount. I don't disagree that social skills are very important to develop in all children. To me this is a given already. My argument is that on top of the basics some children require more intellectual stimulation than others. Even according to the Swiss Teachers Association LCH, the needs of the top 10% students are not being met in the Glorious Swiss public schools. Here is their recent position paper on this topic.

I think one way to gauge the performance of the school system in a country is to look at their final product. The Credit Suisse Youth Barometer survey recently described the Swiss youth as "predictable and boring".

So it is not just the academic mediocrity that the Swiss public schools promote in their students - they fail to promote an entrepreneurial mindset and motivation to pursue novel things in life.
It looks like the system here is set up to have a deficit of highly educated and motivated people that are then imported for free from abroad. Not sure this is a sustainable model in the long term.
I have the impression you're comparing the Swiss system with a few selected American schools. If it's true, you'll probably be unhappy with any of the schools here (not sure about the international ones with a foreign curriculum). I don't think they fail to promote entrepreneurial mindset or motivation to pursue new things - it's just done differently than you expect.
Btw, as for the system being mediocre - it does have a few layers (or paths) as you may already know.
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Old 04.06.2019, 11:47
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I have the impression you're comparing the Swiss system with a few selected American schools. If it's true, you'll probably be unhappy with any of the schools here (not sure about the international ones with a foreign curriculum). I don't think they fail to promote entrepreneurial mindset or motivation to pursue new things - it's just done differently than you expect.
Btw, as for the system being mediocre - it does have a few layers (or paths) as you may already know.



Are American schools really that good !!


Just need to look at the present and future candidates for the White House to show thats patently untrue
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Btw, as for the system being mediocre - it does have a few layers (or paths) as you may already know.
I get the impression all that is totally irrelevant for Captain Obvious.

The system doesn’t operate in the way that he wants it to so therefore it is all completely rubbish.

There are a variety of options for ‘gifted’ children in Switzerland if you look for them. ‘Gifted’ children come in a multitude of guises so there is no one size fits all solution for them either.
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Old 04.06.2019, 11:56
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Are American schools really that good !!


Just need to look at the present and future candidates for the White House to show thats patently untrue
99% of them even went to private schools which are infinitely better than the public ones!
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Are American schools really that good !!


Just need to look at the present and future candidates for the White House to show thats patently untrue
But they do promote an "entrepreneurial mindset and motivation for novel things"...apparently.

In all seriousness, that's a...more complex discussion and is neither the place, nor the time. Let's avoid Captain Obvious'....mistakes. I did write "a few selected" though, btw.

As the thread is all about flexing our muscles, it's better to call it a day.
Agreed, Captain Obvious?
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I expect to receive groans as you will not have any intelligent counterarguments here. By the way, getting a MS in theoretical physics only to work as an IT guy is not a great achievement.
What makes you think you deserve to be taken seriously when you find it logical to compare public primary schools (annual budget per pupil 10k or so) to private schools that demand tuition fees of 30-40-50k?
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Perhaps you should pay better attention to this Swiss saying of old:
"vom Höresäge lernt mer lüge"
effectively, relying on hearsay is prone to have you lie.
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I get the impression all that is totally irrelevant for Captain Obvious.
It's all relevant to him getting his jollies.
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Old 04.06.2019, 13:58
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99% of them even went to private schools which are infinitely better than the public ones!



Well f**k my brown boots, i'd never have guessed that
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