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A behaviour of a Teacher

Hi all,
It came to our attention a weird situation at school. Our kid is telling us since the beginning of this school year that a particular teacher which joined and replaced the previous teacher is making comments about "auslander" kids. Given the fact that in the class there are several non-Swiss kids, each lesson he is saying "I dont like auslanders"; "I have something against them " and so on.
My kid told me that the previous teacher didnt ever made such comments.


Now, as an adult is hard for me to believe that this is happening in a Swiss school. However, something is happening there and i dont know how to act.


Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance for your thoughts.
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Old 15.11.2018, 08:51
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Hi all,
It came to our attention a weird situation at school. Our kid is telling us since the beginning of this school year that a particular teacher which joined and replaced the previous teacher is making comments about "auslander" kids. Given the fact that in the class there are several non-Swiss kids, each lesson he is saying "I dont like auslanders"; "I have something against them " and so on.
My kid told me that the previous teacher didnt ever made such comments.


Now, as an adult is hard for me to believe that this is happening in a Swiss school. However, something is happening there and i dont know how to act.


Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance for your thoughts.
Talk to the teacher, if that doesn´t help, talk to the head of the school.
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Re: A behaviour of a Teacher

If you are close to any of the other children's parents ask them to ask their children about what happens during the lessons of this new teacher, if there is anything they find odd or strange.

If they confirm I'd go to the head of the school directly since I can imagine talking to the teacher would end in something like this:

Good morning Mr. X, I'm Mr. Y, the father of Z. Are you by any chance making racist comments during your lessons?
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Old 15.11.2018, 09:28
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Talk to the teacher, if that doesn´t help, talk to the head of the school.
Yes, thats the way to go. Collect some examples and confront him. But do not blame him directly, just express your concerns like: Maybe there is a misunderstanding, but....
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Sounds very strange indeed, why would a teacher say something so dumb to a class full of kids, many of them directly concerned.



Teachers have a certain responsibility and are well educated and trained in how to deal with kids and in a multi cultural/linguistic society such as here, this would be bordering on insanity.



How well does your child understand the local language ?
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Old 15.11.2018, 10:12
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Teachers have a certain responsibility and are well educated and trained in how to deal with kids and in a multi cultural/linguistic society such as here, this would be bordering on insanity.
Having had three kids through the system, there's definitely been one or two teachers who were hovering over the boundary between eccentric and stark staring bonkers.
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Re: A behaviour of a Teacher

Another place to start if you're uncomfortable talking to the teacher directly would be to contact the parents who volunteered as representatives for the class. At the very least, they should be able to provide you with some background and tell you whether other parents have raised the issue.
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Having had three kids through the system, there's definitely been one or two teachers who were hovering over the boundary between eccentric and stark staring bonkers.



More than likely, mime makes me nuts, having 18 to cope with, none of which were mine would certainly send me over the top


There again, i'm not a teacher !!
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Talk to the teacher, if that doesn´t help, talk to the head of the school.
Yes, a good place to start. But if your local language (????? location) is not very good, then take a friend who is a local with you- to help with language, but also as support /witness.

You also have a local education board, made up of the Head teacher and deputy, normally, a few teacher reps, local politicians and parent representatives- who can be contacted via the Commune/Gemeinde. They have the list of reps available on the Education Committee-

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Old 15.11.2018, 10:41
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Having had three kids through the system, there's definitely been one or two teachers who were hovering over the boundary between eccentric and stark staring bonkers.
If one of your kids made the apprenticeship 4 years earlier you could have added another one to the list


Very strange behaviour of the teacher. I would try do verify your kids story asking other parents/kids and then confront the teacher directly. There might be an official protocol how to complain at your school, there is one in my school at least.
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Sounds very strange indeed, why would a teacher say something so dumb to a class full of kids, many of them directly concerned.



Teachers have a certain responsibility and are well educated and trained in how to deal with kids and in a multi cultural/linguistic society such as here, this would be bordering on insanity.



How well does your child understand the local language ?
Why would a child make that up?

If it is a matter of missunderstanding due to language, it still has to be cleared up. The teacher would have to learn to phrase his sentences in a way that no such missunderstandings repeatedly occur.

There is no reason to hesitate confronting the teacher (first), then the headmaster. If no understanding/agreement can be reached even an official complaint is due.
Before you do all that, sit down with your child, have a talk about the matter, get clear info what the teacher said, how the child feels about it and what you are planning to do about the situation.
The child should know what consequences such accusations have. Has the child made it all up it will backtrack. Is the child telling the truth (about what's been said or - and that is already good enough - what it perceived) it will learn that defense is possible and something can be done about it.


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I didn’t say the child made it up, i said maybe the child misunderstood in view of the language difference, a «lost in translation» moment !
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I didn’t say the child made it up, i said maybe the child misunderstood in view of the language difference, a «lost in translation» moment !
I understood that. It is very possible too.
As I mentioned, if it is a missunderstanding (due to the language) it still needs to be cleard up. Me thinks.


I like to "teach" children that if they think they understand something in a way they feel attacked by, they should sort it out/ask back. Once they realize this works, they do it themselves, according to my experience.
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Re: A behaviour of a Teacher

I'd go straight to the head of the school. Stay calm and stick to the facts. Just say that you're concerned because of what your child has reported is being said, and ask the school to please investigate the matter. Make the matter confidential between you and the head of the school. Simple as that.
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Now, as an adult is hard for me to believe that this is happening in a Swiss school. However, something is happening there and i dont know how to act.

Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance for your thoughts.
Make sure it is as your kid says. Talk to the parents of his/her friends if their kid has mentioned similar things.
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Re: A behaviour of a Teacher

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Sounds very strange indeed, why would a teacher say something so dumb to a class full of kids, many of them directly concerned.



Teachers have a certain responsibility and are well educated and trained in how to deal with kids and in a multi cultural/linguistic society such as here, this would be bordering on insanity.



How well does your child understand the local language ?

I gues you dont have kids in the schooling system?


Teachers here range from perfect to bordering on insanity. I can give you numerous examples. Teachers giving caluclators to weaker students during the Kantonal tests. Teachers who can barely speak to me in English, teaching 4th Grade English. A teacher who agressively shook a student by the shoulders and shoved her out of the classroom.



I wouldnt put this down to a misunderstanding.



I would take this up with the teacher. It is my experience that if you go in with all your guns blazing, you will not get very far. But if you take the stance of well, you just cannot believe that XYZ is true and you just wanted to clarify it with him. You will get much further.
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Re: A behaviour of a Teacher

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Sounds very strange indeed, why would a teacher say something so dumb to a class full of kids, many of them directly concerned.



Teachers have a certain responsibility and are well educated and trained in how to deal with kids and in a multi cultural/linguistic society such as here, this would be bordering on insanity.



How well does your child understand the local language ?

My kid is in the Swiss School system since he was 2 years old. So, i would say he understands enough the language. I hope
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I would take this up with the teacher. It is my experience that if you go in with all your guns blazing, you will not get very far. But if you take the stance of well, you just cannot believe that XYZ is true and you just wanted to clarify it with him. You will get much further.
Not sure what people are expecting the teacher to actually say:

"No, you child is mistaken, I never said any of those things."

or

"Yes, it's true, I don't like foreigners."

Whenever I've had these sorts of discussions with teachers, there's always been absolute denial.
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[QUOTE=Pather;3013819]I gues you dont have kids in the schooling system?


Teachers here range from perfect to bordering on insanity. I can give you numerous examples. Teachers giving caluclators to weaker students during the Kantonal tests. Teachers who can barely speak to me in English, teaching 4th Grade English. A teacher who agressively shook a student by the shoulders and shoved her out of the classroom.



I wouldn't put this down to a misunderstanding.


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Well your guess is about as far wrong as you can get !

It needs to be resolved that is for sure, but before getting the artillery out, maybe best to get the facts right and if possible corroborated with others before pissing the heads of school off totally as the acusation is very serious indeed.... career ruining in fact

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Not sure what people are expecting the teacher to actually say:

"No, you child is mistaken, I never said any of those things."

or

"Yes, it's true, I don't like foreigners."

Whenever I've had these sorts of discussions with teachers, there's always been absolute denial.
Not me.

I've had teachers repeat absoluetly outrageous statments in my face.

This was about 15 years ago though. Not sure if schools have upped their act since then and got those teachers to quit or fall back into line.
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