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We're on child number two to get through the exam. A couple of tips:

- don't fully rely on the Lernstudio course to fully prepare your child; it will provide the base but a lot of extra work through previous year exams is really required
- our first child went to Lernstudio, our second to AHA. We have been more impressed with AHA, but this can be different teacher to teacher
- previous year exams, especially on the math are very useful, repetition until they can confidently handle.
- Lots of extra time, effort and working through frustration is required by parents and child. If the drive and motivation from the child is there, it's worth it.

It's a less than ideal system for entrance, but it is what it is. With that said, we've been nothing but impressed with the quality of the education at the gymnasium. The workload is extremely high (too high imo), but the teaching quality is very very good.
Did you go to AHA for the long or short Gymnasium preparation? There is a very big difference in the exam.
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Did you go to AHA for the long or short Gymnasium preparation? There is a very big difference in the exam.
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Strange word Gymnasium for a school. In English its a place to do fitness. Wierd
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Strange word Gymnasium for a school. In English its a place to do fitness. Wierd
That's why they changed the words to gym and Gymi, respectively.
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Strange word Gymnasium for a school. In English its a place to do fitness. Wierd
And in ancient Greek it was a place for fitness AND education.
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Sorry if I take advantage of your thread, but I also have a question that concerns gymnasium.

My son is in 5th and next year will do the exam for langgymnasium. His teacher recommended him this. She said that next year the school will provide 2 hours extra classes per week for the preparation and it will be free since the teachers are "referring" him.

Talking to some friends and colleagues it almost looks like everybody pays for extra courses to get ready for exam admission, etc. I am not so old, but at my times nobody ever did extra classes. Nachhilfe was also only for those very weak. I went myself to gymnasium but I don't remember having ever studied extra. I never even asked for my parents support. You simply had to pay attention during class and that was it.

So my questions: is Ticino that is so different from the german part or the times have changed and the educational system is not anymore like it used to be? And, should be enough to just do these free extra hours for preparation?

I'd be happy to hear your experiences.
The education system has prob changed quite a bit. Honestly according to my experience (I did the exam last year and my probation thingy just finished last week) you don't need those course that cost like 1000 Fr. per day for a week I think or smth. Only if the child needs a lot of help, then that should be an option but the free extra 2 hours classes (that everyone who wanted to do the test took) are enough.

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Hi all,

Would be grateful for any recommendations for Gymnasium preparation course, in and around Zurich. I am looking for a course which ideally starts next autumn for a 2. Sec student.

Thanks in advance
He/She is gonna have the test in March if I am correct. Because it is Kurzgymnasium, believe me, you don't need more courses than what the school offers. Would you like to mention the school the student picked because maybe it is the same as me?

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Nice question, i don't understand that groan.
There are so many parents here asking for prep courses and tutors I really wonder wheter:
a) Schools don't prepare pupils enough for the exam
b) The exam is too difficult and far away from the primary school curriculum
c) A lot of parents want to see their kids at the gymi even though they don't fit in there. (Some with valid reasons of course)
It is definitely a and c.

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My daughter is now in 6th. A year ago I thought it should be piece of a cake to pass these exams. I never took any additional course for my exams.

We decided to give it a try (in May), took actual math exam samples, made two copies one for her, one for me, started timer and... After about 15-20 mins she came with tears - can't do anything with any of task. I was able to solve only one... I can imagine they didn't learn some things in 5th yet, but zero result makes me think. Me myself managing only one was another doubt (shock actually).

So we decided to work on math together on our own. I don't really trust these not motivated courses. We took some study materials in a local library, bought last year's ones and found the rest online. Very soon I figured out they do calculations completely in a different way I did at school. Together with that came understanding what we need learn first - use materials as a source of knowledge. Everything is described here, examples provided.

At the beginning we spent quite a lot of time together, multiple times a week.

By end of December she was able to solve all sorts of asked tasks. The only problem is velocity. 9-10 tasks in 60 mins is a challenge. Now I only shortly remind her that the exam is in March and if SHE wants to get there she has to improve her performance.

Regarding the language exam I cannot help, but she herself does it pretty good. To write a 3-5 pages text in German is her typical thing... So we agreed in addition to school's course to ask a friend of us with some experience to work with her every second week.

We'll see if it was enough in less than two months.
Good luck to her

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Re: Gymnasium preparation course Zurich

I was asked to share details of study materials I mentioned above. Here you go:

https://www.zentraleaufnahmepruefung...uefungsarchiv/
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Re: Gymnasium preparation course Zurich

Well, time to look at results. My daughter failed the exam. As well as other 5 kids (all participated) from her class. They all are far below the needed level. I saw no motivation in their eyes.

Within 1 hour after the exam my daughter explained me where she made the mistakes and how she could improve here and there (both in math and in German). She's not that stupid at all. I believe it's more influence from all the sides in the school "relax, don't learn too much, go play". Look at this article in German: https://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/st...Gymi--23692162 see the top comments. When I was at school we didn't have gymnasium or uni as a target, we just had to learn and know the things. And still had enough time for play.

In general I do agree she's not ready for gymi yet. Will it be different in 2-3 years? I think it depends on the school.
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In general I do agree she's not ready for gymi yet. Will it be different in 2-3 years? I think it depends on the school.
I think it mostly depends on your daughter and her development in those years. The school will certainly play their part in that, the biggest part will lie on your and your daugthers shoulders.
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the biggest part will lie on your and your daugthers shoulders.
May I ask you to elaborate this sentence please? I do have two other younger kids and still may have a chance to do some development.
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May I ask you to elaborate this sentence please? I do have two other younger kids and still may have a chance to do some development.
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Sorry I am not sure what you expect

If you want me to explain what I meant:

Your wrote: "In general I do agree she's not ready for gymi yet. Will it be different in 2-3 years? I think it depends on the school. "

That looked to me like it solely depends on the school wether your daughter will be ready for gymi or not. If that were true, 80% of her sek class would be able to go to gymi in the middle of sek. Very unlikely.

Your daughter surely will go through some development stages (I am no expert on that, my students are a lot older) in the near future, whether those bring her closer to gymi or not is not is quite open.
You might be wrong expecting the sek to prepare your daughter for gymi thats not their job (here in switzerland).
Samaire13 put this in much better words than I can here:

https://www.englishforum.ch/3057439-post25.html


If you ask me for advice on how to help your daughter's (and the other two kids') development I have to dissapoint you.
One of my kids is 3 years old, the other one 6 months, I can't share my experience here.
I can't share my experience as a teacher either, since my students are between 16 and 20 years old.
I rather give no advice than bad advice.

However, I can tell you what my father did when I was in the 8. class and thinking about entering gymi.
I was asked, what I expect from life, job/wealth-wise. We then talked about different jobs, schools and possibilites for further education. That helped me a lot plannig my future and gaining intrinsic motivation through that.
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