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Speech and language therapist

My daughter is nearly 4- she has some speech problems.
She has problems with pronunciation and some delay
in speech. I have spoken with my paediatrician about
this last year. He referred her to a SLT in Zug. They
would not accept her as a patient as they “don’t do slt in English “.
Can anyone recommend a SLT in the Zug/Luzern/Zurich area.
Does health insurance cover the cost? I’m with Swica.
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Re: Speech and language therapist

Your daughters doctor should be helping a bit more maybe?
There are SALT in Zurich, if you are willing to travel.
In schools usually the SALT is offered in German.
Otherwise try the International Schools maybe. Often they have in-house SALT who may offer appointments
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Re: Speech and language therapist

I don't know about Zug, but in Zürich the city itself has programs for kids and you might be entitled to an income depending attribution from town if you would send your kid to a certified daycare who also has specialised in speech support.

But given that your kid is almost 4 and thus should start kindergarten after summer it likely is to late for such programs. Ours is two and we will start with this in a few weeks for 2 or 3 full days a week, we run an English speaking household and thus the kid is lacking in local language and some hours at the playground are not going to solve that.

Also you want this to be in English, are you going to send your kid to an international school?
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Does health insurance cover the cost? I’m with Swica.
No it is the responsibility of the Kanton.
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Re: Speech and language therapist

Yes I want it in English. We are getting an assessment in Ireland next week.
Willing to travel to Zurich. Cause I was going to bring her home
for sessions. She is 4 next month so she won’t be for local school
till August 2020 (5 years). We are sending her to a bilingual KG
next year (English and German). The Heilpädagogischer Dienst Zug
don’t offer slt in English. If I have to travel out of the Canton for this
will insurance pay for it.
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Re: Speech and language therapist

Mispronunciation can be helped enormously with mouth exercises and there are lots of fun games you can play with a young child to help the movement of the mouth and tongue. Your SLT/ assessment in Ireland can give you info.. but surely your child's pediatrician can point you in the right direction for a pathologist's assessment here. All doctors speak english in my experience.. I can understand the preference for a mother-tongue SLT to regularly support on-going work, but to assess the way she uses her mouth/facial muscles to speak, you can get assessments done here.

SLT work will largely be done by yourself, with guidance from a therapist who will set up a plan tailored to meet your daughter's needs, so don't give up looking for someone in CH as it's important to have help near to where you live and support for your daughter when she begins school.

Good luck with the assessment in Ireland.
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Mispronunciation can be helped enormously with mouth exercises and there are lots of fun games you can play with a young child to help the movement of the mouth and tongue. Your SLT/ assessment in Ireland can give you info.. but surely your child's pediatrician can point you in the right direction for a pathologist's assessment here. All doctors speak english in my experience.. I can understand the preference for a mother-tongue SLT to regularly support on-going work, but to assess the way she uses her mouth/facial muscles to speak, you can get assessments done here.

SLT work will largely be done by yourself, with guidance from a therapist who will set up a plan tailored to meet your daughter's needs, so don't give up looking for someone in CH as it's important to have help near to where you live and support for your daughter when she begins school.

Good luck with the assessment in Ireland.

This, plus... your daughter is 4. At 4 Little Rufus couldn't pronounce her fs... "shish and chips" was a favourite meal. At 5 she can. Kids develop at different rates. Can she hear the different sounds but not replicate them? Is her communication understandable? Rhetorical qus by the way. I hope you find the support you need.


Another thing occurs to me... is she learning German/Swiss German alongside English. That "could " account for the delay you mention... and soon her wonderful sponge-like brain will sort it all out and you'll wish she could be quiet in several languages!

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Re: Speech and language therapist

Don't know if this applies to your child but my god-daughter had speech issues when she was younger and the therapist told her mum that some of it was partly down to her not eating "chewy and crunchy foods". She'd avoided anything that was difficult to eat because it made her mouth tired (her words, apparently), her mum had then just mushed up her meals to avoid the dinnertime drama, and this in turn had impacted on the necessary development of muscles around the jaw and neck.
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Re: Speech and language therapist

In our area school refers a child to a logopedist. Kids start here at 4 so that gets checked at 4 not 5 here. Parents pay for logopedic treatment, just like other corrective treatment (braces, orthopaedic stuff).

Our home is trilingual so there was a logical speech delay, cca around 4.5-5yr. We sang a lot, combined rhythmics and sounds to facilitate, read slowly and had a few fonetics/logo focused programs I homeschooled my child at. Music, piano, solfege and singing in 3 languages helped a lot. Exercises, repetitive stuff (ř and ž was tough for a child learning her mother tongue far from home).

Another thing is, there are orthoepic issues that relate to particular language and don't happen in the other languages that the child is learning simultaneously.

Good luck. It all works better when home isn't putting too much pressure on the issue.
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Yes I want it in English. We are getting an assessment in Ireland next week.
Willing to travel to Zurich. Cause I was going to bring her home
for sessions. She is 4 next month so she won’t be for local school
till August 2020 (5 years). We are sending her to a bilingual KG
next year (English and German). The Heilpädagogischer Dienst Zug
don’t offer slt in English. If I have to travel out of the Canton for this
will insurance pay for it.
Find a therapist who will do SLT in english then get your doctor to refer you that exact one to cover the insurance costs. I would ring around all SLTs and pediatricians you can find and ask them if they know of any bilingual/ english speaking SLTs. Call the relevant departments in the Kinderspitals too, they night know.

The school or the KG next year can also refer you, via the Kanton, and they arrange support that way.

EDIT: the thing is, if a doctor or professional tells you to relax and wait, then fine.. but if anyone else tells you to relax and wait, ignore them. Always go with your gut instinct and seek professional help/support, no matter the age.
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In our area school refers a child to a logopedist. Kids start here at 4 so that gets checked at 4 not 5 here. Parents pay for logopedic treatment, just like other corrective treatment (braces, orthopaedic stuff).
As you are also in VD, I wanted to clarify this. Once the school or pediatrician has diagnosed the condition or treatment needs for speech therapy, the Canton of Vaud pays it. My daughter has been in speech therapy for six years and the canton covers the speech therapy in French.

Now for orignal poster, I will explain my daughter's situation in Canton Vaud, but please realise that this is canton specific. So you would need to verify the situation in Zug. As above, once diagnosed and need for treatment is established by the pediatrician, the canton typically has the provision for speech therapy in the local language offered by canton or through the schools. My daughter started at age four through the canton program.

Later on there was also the need for speech therapy in English, but the canton was not the one to do this in my case. It was arranged through an international school and paid through semi private insurance. If you have only the basic insurance, Lamal in French, there is not the coverage because it's covered by canton as I understand. Lamal will cover speech therapy for a limited period of time due to accident or injury. Maybe that could be the case for your child and in which case your pediatrician could make the case. However, with many development issues, this is often not the case. If you don't have private or semi-private insurance, you are most likely paying out of pocket for it. However, there may again be possibities if you further discuss with pediatrician. Ours was talking about some social services of the canton which could have helped or potentially AI as well. Didn't pursue these routes but it could apply in extreme cases.
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