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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

AVS number comes, when employer registers an amployee with AVS office.
If the contract is signed (work permit you have already, right - "attistation"?) and your boyfriend filled out the form with HR-ppl, then he will receive this small card in a week or so.
Form states full name, date of birth, place of birth... really not much more... and a signature. If he signed this already, then the card is on the way.
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Old 19.01.2011, 16:30
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

Right, AVS demand was filed and it's all ok now apparently. We're just waiting for the permit to come and we're a bit stressed about it . But I think it will all be ok . Thank you all for all the help and support, hopefully very soon I won't be housewife anymore, i find that it's not much fun :P
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Old 21.01.2011, 10:28
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

OK, another update, just so as not to confuse someone. The employer also has to file a request at the local (in this case VD) office des etrangers with a form, cv of the employee, diplomas, proof that he looked across CH and EU17 and a letter of motivation. Now I am really, really stressed because the employer is literally clueless when it comes to these things (administrative stuff in general) and I know that a good case helps a LOT. And now I am so worried that his demand will be rejected. Anyone have happy stories to share? Because after searching the forum for pemrit rejection I got really depressed
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Old 21.01.2011, 13:18
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

The information you need is here and here.

It is a little complicated as the info has not been updated since the freedom of movement agreements were extended to include Romania and Bulgaria (the EU 2).

Since this extension happened in 2010 the deal now is:

For self employed activities up to the maximum of 90 days he must self register at least 8 days before taking up the gainful activity.

Employers must sponsor the employee as per non-EU citizens and taking account of the same restrictions. This means that the employer must advertise the position and prove there is no Swiss or EU 25 citizen available.

The advantage is that EU 2 citizens are not included in the normal non-EU quota but have their own quota.
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Old 21.01.2011, 13:22
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

Thank you so much, apparently a nice person from service de migration called the unaware employer and they sorted it all out, proof is there and everything.

I am just very scared that the permit may be rejected. It doesn't happen that often, does it?
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

Really pleased for you both. Good luck.
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Old 27.01.2011, 23:09
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

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Dear all,

So after one year and a few months, the lovely boyfriend finally got a firm job offer

My question for you guys is (no, I'm not just bragging): is it normal for Swiss contracts to be sooo simple and sooo short? Like, his states the amount of hours worked, salary etc. and something like "the terms of the Swiss Legislation will be applied". Since I know it's very important for the permit application to have a good contract i am unsure about it.

Also, about the permit, since the company is very new at this, we are quite confused with where the application must be made, since he lives in Neuchatel but works in Lausanne...

Also, can he work after he deposits his papers because the boss is very eager for him to start after he freelanced for a while from Romania...

Oh dear, sorry for all the questions...I did search the forum before asking all of them but found only vague answers, especially since I'm confused as to where Romania goes - EU or Non-EU
You are from Romania and you don't know if Romania is in the EU or not? Now I am confused.
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Old 28.01.2011, 09:42
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

No, I am not confused at all, employers generally are because they cannot understand why the country is part of the EU but still has quotas and restrictions. So then I have to explain about all the lovely agreements. If you look on the forum, you'll see there's a thread for EU passport holders and one for Non-EU when it comes to permits and visas. However, Romania isn't part of any of them because, while we are no longer in need of a visa to stay here and can travel as a tourist freely, we still need employers to prove they have not found any Swiss citizen or EU 17 that can do the job in our place and then prove that to the Swiss authorities who will then (hopefully) issue a permit.

Lovely bf sent the rest of the papers this week. Fingers crossed!
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On a side note..congrats on the new job kittycat
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

Awww, thank you, I have just seen this. Well, now it's on to the job hunt. I should open a thread saying "xxxxxx, is this enough", right? It's what people do, isn't it?
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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

Update, if anyone should wonder...my permit took almost 6 months to arrive, 3 to get the OK from the service de migration and another 3 to actually get the piece of paper. My boyfriend's permit was rejected for totally unfounded reasons (i.e. the unemplyment office had sent "a dozen of potential candidates" - none of which had ever worked in the field before) and it's been a looong trial since April. We're hoping for some good news in September. Until then, we're trying to get some kind of family reunion permit, but that is hard too, given we are not married. So the saga continues, until better news...

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Re: Employment Contract - Too Simple?!

best of luck on the search. it seems to be getting tougher, but switzerland still seems to be in a good position relative to some other countries where unemployment is very high and growing.
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Update, if anyone should wonder...my permit took almost 6 months to arrive, 3 to get the OK from the service de migration and another 3 to actually get the piece of paper. My boyfriend's permit was rejected for totally unfounded reasons (i.e. the unemplyment office had sent "a dozen of potential candidates" - none of which had ever worked in the field before) and it's been a looong trial since April. We're hoping for some good news in September. Until then, we're trying to get some kind of family reunion permit, but that is hard too, given we are not married. So the saga continues, until better news...
Just be patient and fight the permit rejection, they are not (at all) invincible you know..but for that you have to do your homework and study all the laws that could apply to your case. Pigs.
Best of luck to you and your boyfriend!
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Just be patient and fight the permit rejection, they are not (at all) invincible you know..but for that you have to do your homework and study all the laws that could apply to your case. Pigs.
Best of luck to you and your boyfriend!

Well, we're hoping that the lawyers are doing their job properly...but the wait is not the best feeling in the world. And the most annoying fact is that most people in administration do not really know what they are talking about, since everything is so new. So you sort of have to explain to them what the new regulations are without pissing them off. Not easy, I must tell you. I just hope everything will be ok, we've been working on this for sooo long
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