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Old 21.01.2011, 18:18
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

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Swiss people are unfortunately absolutely not talented at sales at all. I do not need to have it as aggressive as their US counterparts, but the Swiss consultants I worked with were "sleepy" at best.
Personally I find that a good thing. It reduces the risk of getting "sold" into something that isn't good for me.
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Old 21.01.2011, 18:23
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That's why, as a hiring manager, when you find someone who sources you good people, you use them again and again.
The whole pimp-whore-client relationship is based on everyone being good at what they do.

A good pimp finds the right whore for the right client.

A good whore means a pimp can easily find the right client for them - and also even find jobs that don't exist.

A good client provides a detailed an accurate description of what they want and works with the pimp to get the best whore.

Obviously, you might choose to re-name whore and pimp - but it works for me.

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I had an agency create 2 roles at client companies for me - if I wanted them - at a time when the market was tight. Even then clients are looking for people to improve the workforce even if they don't have a specific role.
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Old 21.01.2011, 18:38
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Personally I find that a good thing. It reduces the risk of getting "sold" into something that isn't good for me.
But it reduces the risk of getting sold at all as well...
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That's why, as a hiring manager, when you find someone who sources you good people, you use them again and again.
More employee roulette, a lot are hit and miss in IT as they haven't got a clue about the role specifics.
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Old 21.01.2011, 20:18
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The whole pimp-whore-client relationship is based on everyone being good at what they do.

A good pimp finds the right whore for the right client.

A good whore means a pimp can easily find the right client for them - and also even find jobs that don't exist.

A good client provides a detailed an accurate description of what they want and works with the pimp to get the best whore.

Obviously, you might choose to re-name whore and pimp - but it works for me.

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I had an agency create 2 roles at client companies for me - if I wanted them - at a time when the market was tight. Even then clients are looking for people to improve the workforce even if they don't have a specific role.
Problem is the client wants a movie star look-alike but pays WC cleaner rates
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Old 21.01.2011, 20:43
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More employee roulette, a lot are hit and miss in IT as they haven't got a clue about the role specifics.
Like this advert for Grooby on Grails.
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

I think you are giving recruiters more power than they have. We can suggest things to you, we can set you up with interviews, but you the candidate must have the final responsibility to accept the position if it is good for you. I haven't met a recruiter yet who holds a gun to your head to take a job they've put you up for.
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Old 21.01.2011, 21:19
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

I used to work in the IT department of an agency; the recruiters were often coming through to our office to ask us what the description for a position meant & what questions they should be asking the candidates.

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Old 21.01.2011, 21:22
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I always called mine my pimp, after all I was prosituting my mind to the highest bidder/best role.

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Obviously, you might choose to re-name whore and pimp - but it works for me.
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Old 21.01.2011, 21:49
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Like this advert for Grooby on Grails.
You could not make it up could you?

I suppose if you wrote back & said you were a long time Java expert who had Groovy experience then you would not reach first base?
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Old 21.01.2011, 21:52
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I think you are giving recruiters more power than they have. We can suggest things to you, we can set you up with interviews, but you the candidate must have the final responsibility to accept the position if it is good for you. I haven't met a recruiter yet who holds a gun to your head to take a job they've put you up for.
Or even a recruiter who accepts the role on your behalf "Sorry but there was a lot of competition for the role so I had to say yes for you; of course the rate is not what you are used to but it is a very interesting role....."
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No. They don't. Only the black sheep in the market do that typically do not have a job for you anyway - they only live on the false hopes of some desperate souls.

Never ever pay a headhunter.
In Latvia they sometimes do it. Unfortunately. Not all companies of course, but still.

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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

they are parasites, but even parasites serve a function
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

Is there a list compiled on EF anywhere of which companies you've all had good luck with?

Am senior exec. now in Zurich & willing to relocate, global experience (5 continents this year), looking for new strategic challenges... learning & Dev./HR. with Fortune & Global 100.

Which headhunter/recruiting firms would you recommend? Would love your cumulative experience/advice...

Thanks!
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

I get approached, occasionally, though LinkedIn.com. Definitely worth a go, and free too.
I also use iProfile.com to search - seems to be a good portal-style page.
Good luck!
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Is there a list compiled on EF anywhere of which companies you've all had good luck with?

Am senior exec. now in Zurich & willing to relocate, global experience (5 continents this year), looking for new strategic challenges... learning & Dev./HR. with Fortune & Global 100.

Which headhunter/recruiting firms would you recommend? Would love your cumulative experience/advice...

Thanks!
What industries and functions do you have experience in? Many
recruiters are specialized in IT, Finance, Biotechnology, etc...
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Old 20.07.2011, 14:22
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

The recruiter is your BFF until he realizes he cant make money out of you.
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

Thanks @liamdee.

@HollidayG: I work across sectors. Clients include: shipping, energy (oil & gas), reinsurance, automotive, various high tech, limited financial services, manufacturing.
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Re: How does it work with headhunters/recruitment companies in Zurich?

If a headhunter tells me about Novartis with open positions and asks me to provide him a cv, but at the same time I see that the company has this job posting also on its homepage, wouldn't it be wiser to apply directy instead applying through recruiting agency?
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If a headhunter tells me about Novartis with open positions and asks me to provide him a cv, but at the same time I see that the company has this job posting also on its homepage, wouldn't it be wiser to apply directy instead applying through recruiting agency?

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No a recruiter is hired for that job. If they wanted to go through the whole process themselves they wouldnt have hired a recruiter. They know the Person suggested by the recruiter is a good match to the job so they cut out the time wasters
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