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question about salaries in UK cf CH

Is there someone from Yorkshire? I'm interested to ask about level of salaries in that region. How to compare 38000 GBP (gross) with swiss salaries?
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Re: question about salaries in UK

As a single income for a family I would imagine that your lifestyle would not be great, as an income for a single person, you could live quite well. Property is over valued so be aware of that and taxes are much higher.

At a guess I would say that you could look at it from the point of view of earning an equivalent CH income of about 50K but I might be off on that one.
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Re: question about salaries in UK

Thank you. It is for family, what if both parents earn something like that? so 70000-80000 GBP in total for family.
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Re: question about salaries in UK

I heard on Radio 4 last week that the average UK salary was £26,000 so whilst I agree that £38,000 will not have you living the high life, it is substantially more than the average wage. Living costs in Yorkshire will be noticeably lower than in the south of the country so although property will be a large chunk of your income, it is not as bad as it might be (although watch out for expensive pockets, tourist areas etc). I do not come from Yorkshire but from the other side of the Pennines, but believe that costs are roughly comparable. My gut feeling is that for one person, this is an ok wage, but it will be a squeeze for a family. In terms of spending power, I would think it is worth a little more however than 50K here, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: question about salaries in UK

Oh just saw your next post. That is a good wage. You will be fine on that for a family (especially if the kids are in school so you are not bleeding money on expensive pre-school child care).

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Re: question about salaries in UK

thanks for your replies.
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Old 31.01.2011, 09:30
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What part of Yorkshire are you moving to? Yorkshire is possibly England's largest county, or one of them, and has some of the most expensive areas to live and some of the cheapest. It is also (in my opinion) one of England's most beautiful counties and the people are very nice and friendly.

£38k is fine for a couple to live on and millions of families survive on a lot less than that. With that salary you will remain in the lower tax bracket which will help and if your partner works, you will be taxed separately which will help keep your taxes down.

One of the differences between the UK and Switzerland is that there are more options to live on less money in the UK. Food is much cheaper, restaurants often have deals and have promotions on. You wont have to pay for health insurance.

Go onto rightmove.co.uk and check out the cost of renting a property in the area that you will need to live.

If you do both manage to work and earn around the £70k mark between you then you will have a comfortable life with that sort of money.
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Re: question about salaries in UK

the average wage £26k is a red herring, you really need to find out, if possible, average wages per city and the surrounding area. In any case £80k in Yorkshire will take youa long way as long as you don't rent somewhere expensive
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the average wage £26k is a red herring, you really need to find out, if possible, average wages per city and the surrounding area. In any case £80k in Yorkshire will take youa long way as long as you don't rent somewhere expensive
38,000 pounds is a good wage in England and you will live comfortably. To say 80,000 is ok as long as you dont rent anywhere expensive is rather like saying 300,000CHF here is ok as long as you live frugally and rent a bedsit.
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Re: question about salaries in UK

As I said, £80k will take you a long way in Yorkshire as long as you don't pay very high rents. Remember taxes are higher in the UK and transport can be very high although you can offset much of this because of the cost of living. Also in my experience many expats have to readjust away from the expat lifestyle eating out often etc.
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As I said, £80k will take you a long way in Yorkshire as long as you don't pay very high rents. Remember taxes are higher in the UK and transport can be very high although you can offset much of this because of the cost of living. Also in my experience many expats have to readjust away from the expat lifestyle eating out often etc.
I was born in newcastle and lived for 8 years in manchester. eighty thousand pounds sterling is an enourmous salary, higher than double income salaries in the majority of cases.

some basic figures:

80,000 Gross = 66667.67 gross.
After tax: 4459.20.

Rent: lets go absolutely bananas and say 400 pounds a week in Yorkshire 1600.

bills: 200
car insurance and tax: 150
council tax: 150

Cost: 2100.

you've still got 2300 to spend. per month.

I am lost for words with people's idea's of what is considered a decent wage here.
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Old 31.01.2011, 10:27
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In Yorkshire, people survive on threppence ha'penny. With £38k (or more) you'll be laughing.

It's not actually Grim Up North either, don't believe the SSSDs
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Re: question about salaries in UK

Thanks to all so much for your detailed explanations. I didn't even know that one doesn't need to pay health insurance.
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With £38k+, you would want to look at private insurance IMO.

You don't want to wait 4 years for that open heart surgery as you might find on the NHS.....like my mate's Dad. Thankfully, he was interviewed for a Tv news show about the wait and (drum roll) was in hospital the next day for the procedure. Now how'd that happen...?!?
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With £38k+, you would want to look at private insurance IMO.

You don't want to wait 4 years for that open heart surgery as you might find on the NHS.....like my mate's Dad. Thankfully, he was interviewed for a Tv news show about the wait and (drum roll) was in hospital the next day for the procedure. Now how'd that happen...?!?
Have you got a video or link to the TV show he was interviewed for?
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I think it was about 2 years B.Y. (Before YouTube)...
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Re: question about salaries in UK

£38K is plenty for Yorkshire. I can remember living in Newcastle earning less than that, renting a good apartment in a nice area, running a car, eating and drinking out etc...

Rent will be considerably cheaper than Switzerland unless you want a fancy riverside apartment in Leeds, depending on where you live you could easily rent a full house for less than £1000 per month.

For your after tax income I would look at 66% of the taxable income - that includes all social security and pension contributions, so that would leave you with approx. £25K left, or around £2100 per month. (this is assuming you are taking a regular salaried job, with normal taxable deductions and a pension deduction of around 6% of your salary).

I used to rent a 2 bed apartment for about £600, in most areas in Yorkshire I imagine you could find something similar for a similar price - although most UK rents don't include utilities - something to bear in mind.

As other people say, in Yorkshire and the North of England there will be a substantial number of families who earn a lot less than £38K and get along fine.

If you have 2 incomes of this amount then you'll be proper high society types.
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You wont have to pay for health insurance.
Hmmmm, and what is NI? You mean that you won't be able to choose your health care provider and if you want private health care you will have to pay for two health care schemes.
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38,000 pounds is a good wage in England and you will live comfortably.
Personally I would not try and live in London on 38k per year. I found living on 70k a year is more like it for London.
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