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Australian/US wanting to work in Switzerland

I have dual citizenship Australia/US. I came to France on my Australian passport with a teaching assistantship visa. More info here in case you are interested in what that is. Basically it allows me to live and work here for a fixed term (7-9 months) working only in this particular job and in the town/school in which I was assigned. I am allowed to take small side jobs too. It's a very specific visa.

I'm interested in getting a job in Switzerland after my contract here ends (I live very close to the border).

I've read almost all the posts here on this forum and others... I know there is a quota for non EUs and you have to be highly qualified and work in a specialised field, etc. However I don't believe there is a definite 'no'. I just need to find out how to do it. I'm in my early 30s and have experience in various fields.
I checked out the employment statistics and appears to be 4% unemployment in Switzerland, 5% in Australia and 10% in France.

I'm not adverse to working in France however I really want to work in Switzerland because I prefer the more multicultural and slightly more anglocised lifestyle there. I've heard of non-EUs not in specialised jobs getting jobs in France but I don't know enough relevant people to find out the case for Switzerland...

Should I just apply for the jobs and hope for the best? Any other suggestions? Much appreciated, thanks.
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Old 25.02.2011, 22:15
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I've read almost all the posts here on this forum and others... I know there is a quota for non EUs and you have to be highly qualified and work in a specialised field, etc. However I don't believe there is a definite 'no'.

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Re: Australian/US wanting to work in Switzerland

Basically, for a non-EU applicant to get a job, the employer has to show that they have been unable to find any suitable applicants within Switzerland or the EU for that position. So, if you're in a general field, there's little chance of the employer needing or bothering to follow such a procedure. If, on the other hand, the particular school requires native English-speaking teachers, with certain qualifications, you may have a chance.
The key here, though, is that the employer has to really need you - since they have to go through the process of getting the appropriate work permit for you. Convince an employer that you're indispensible, and you may get a permit.

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Re: Australian/US wanting to work in Switzerland

Thanks for the replies so far.

Another Q: On the CV do I have to put my nationality and if I do, will they read that and disregard my application before looking at anything else even if the CV and cover letter are outstanding?

Basically what are my chances of getting an interview if the CV/letter are good?
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Re: Australian/US wanting to work in Switzerland

HI aussie

It really depends on whether your skill set are unique enough to set yourself apart from others. It is not 'impossible' but it is very difficult.

Switzerland attracts other nationalities because they offer skill sets that are highly sought after in multi national environments that the local potential employee cannot necessarily provide (small population). This in turn encourages a hig level of competition as Switzerland often sources from all over the world. In Australia it is far easier as generally it tends to be a domestic market you are competing against.

There are other big reasons why non EUs come to Switzerland and that is for love, ie, having a swiss partner, via refugee programs etc.

With applying you need to be honest and up front regarding your current status. Yes many employers will cast your resume aside because you do not have a permit, but better to be honest than have to deal with issues later.

No harm in giving job searching a try got nothing to lose.
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Thanks for the replies so far.

Another Q: On the CV do I have to put my nationality and if I do, will they read that and disregard my application before looking at anything else even if the CV and cover letter are outstanding?

Basically what are my chances of getting an interview if the CV/letter are good?
It will soon come out anyway so why hide it ? Yolu can have the very best letter and an outstanding CV, but if there is an EU person qualified for the position, teaching, oit will be hard to justify why you should have a permit.

English teachers are not exactly in short supply here....

Carry on trying by all means, but if you were an expert in molecular biology with a sub specialisation of the movement activity of sugar in the lower intestine, it wopuld be far easier. Language ability doesn't really count as a justification for employing a non EU person unless it is Tadsjik or similar !
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Re: Australian/US wanting to work in Switzerland

It depends what kind of employment you are serching for.
In most international companies, jobs are posted through internal e-recruiting intefaces; you will not be able to get through without saying if you can legally work in Switzerland or not. So there - either you lie (and that may be the thing to do, with the risk that it will not be well received by the recruiter), or the bot will automatically reject your application (they are set up to do that).

For smaller firms, where you speak to a real-life recruiter, it may be easier; just depending on how stunning your cv really is. But - it better be really stunning.
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Re: Australian/US wanting to work in Switzerland

Hi,

I'm also from Australia and recently found a new job here after doing a PhD and short postdoc. It is definitely tougher as a non-EU citizen. I had one telephone interview which went very well, but ended with the interview stating that being non-EU made me a tricky case, even though one of the preferred skills in the job advert was native English speaker (yes, UK, Ireland etc) and some other pretty specific stuff, including the PhD. Unless I could get my "education" B permit converted to an open one, I would not be hired (or something like this).

You will have to find an employer that wants you, and is willing to go through the process of getting you the permit. The employer that did like me enough to do this made it sound pretty straightforward, so I think it depends a lot on if the employer knows how to get things done vis-a-vis the migration office. Also, I think universities in general can get permits pretty easily for the non EU folks, moreso than companies.

I believe certain aspects of the migration system are decided at the cantonal level, so your luck might vary per geography. I'm told if the job has been advertised for X months with no successful CH/EU applicants the employer can make a good case for hiring Johnny-non-EU-foreigner. So it might be worth considering jobs in smaller towns and not just Geneva, Zurich etc.

Best of luck to you...
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I have dual citizenship Australia/US. I came to France on my Australian passport with a teaching assistantship visa. More info here in case you are interested in what that is. Basically it allows me to live and work here for a fixed term (7-9 months) working only in this particular job and in the town/school in which I was assigned. I am allowed to take small side jobs too. It's a very specific visa.

I'm interested in getting a job in Switzerland after my contract here ends (I live very close to the border).

I've read almost all the posts here on this forum and others... I know there is a quota for non EUs and you have to be highly qualified and work in a specialised field, etc. However I don't believe there is a definite 'no'. I just need to find out how to do it. I'm in my early 30s and have experience in various fields.
I checked out the employment statistics and appears to be 4% unemployment in Switzerland, 5% in Australia and 10% in France.

I'm not adverse to working in France however I really want to work in Switzerland because I prefer the more multicultural and slightly more anglocised lifestyle there. I've heard of non-EUs not in specialised jobs getting jobs in France but I don't know enough relevant people to find out the case for Switzerland...

Should I just apply for the jobs and hope for the best? Any other suggestions? Much appreciated, thanks.
Hi,

I don't think you should worry you have smaller chances of getting a job in CH. From your post it is not quite clear to me whether you are interested in an academic career or in working in the private sector. If you want a job in the Swiss educational field, I would suggest that you browse the career sections of the Swiss Universities. There are plenty of opportunities, supposed you have a good track-record and some publications... Good luck!
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