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Old 26.03.2011, 10:02
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

basic wage around 20chf an hour...

And don't do it without a contract....
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Old 26.03.2011, 10:22
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

I pay my cleaning lady CHF 30 per hour - which is the realistic price for such work.

More if heavy duty job is included, e.g. window cleaning.

I assume a qualified nanny would earn about that or CHF 40 per hour.

For a half day i would pay 150.-
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Old 26.03.2011, 11:25
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

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I've done some research on the subject and thought I'll share it... After contacting some nanny agencies, so far two came back with this:

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Salaries for only nursery duties are approx. 4500-5500 CHF monthly, accomodatin to be discussed"

"We recommend an hourly rate of CHF 25 to CHF 35 or a monthly salary of CHF 3800 to CHF 4800 gross for a full-time position"


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Thats why a lot of people hire illegal ladies. Im not saying the salary is wrong, but some families will only work to pay a nanny.

Tanya I have other option, I hire a tag mommy for my kid 3 times per week and its cheaper. Also there are some krippe that charge you acording to your incoming.
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Old 26.03.2011, 11:26
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

It seems crazy to me a cleaner gets CHF30 to 35 or more, and yet 20 is mentioned as suitable for a person who takes care of children.
Following an incident with the wife of another member recently, it is also extremely important that a proper contract is drawn-up with clear guidelines for length of trial period, length of notice from other side, and especially accident insurance both in the employers house and outside.
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Old 26.03.2011, 12:06
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Im not saying the salary is wrong, but some families will only work to pay a nanny.
On the other hand, if the nanny is taking full responsibility for your children for the whole day, then this is her livelihood and she should earn enough to be able to enjoy a certain standard of living as well.
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How much would an hourly-rate be for a part time nanny job(non qualified)? 2 afternoons per week/approximately 10 hours per week, taking care of 2 kids. How much should I be charging with/without a contract?
As the previous poster, mentioned above, the hourly rate would be between 23 and 30 per hour. We have had a nanny for a couple of years and pay 28 CHF per hour for 8 hours of care a week. Don't forget to add the AHV/IV costs and insurance. Also, if she has children herself, there will be the familienzulagen (about 1 %) and if she warns over 20K (or it might be 13 -- I need to check) per year, pension is also obligatory. With the few hours we had, we did not have to pay pension.

The reason we pay at the higher end of the scale is because her education is in childcare.

Hope that helps!
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Old 26.03.2011, 12:38
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

If you are employing anyone over the age of 17 you must pay their AHV IV EO contributions. You must also pay a Swiss company their accident insurance.

http://www.ahv-iv.info/andere/00134/00139/index.html
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Don't forget to add the AHV/IV costs and insurance.
Sorry, I'm not sure I understood that correctly. Did you mean the employer has to pay AHV/IV and insurance for me on top of the normal salary?
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Old 26.03.2011, 12:54
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Sorry, I'm not sure I understood that correctly. Did you mean the employer has to pay AHV/IV and insurance for me on top of the normal salary?
If you work for the employer for more than 8 hours per week then of course! Otherwise you would be illegally employed!

Wife's employer didn't take out accident insurance (I think)
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Old 26.03.2011, 13:17
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Accident insurance from axa winterthur is only 100CHF PER YEAR.

http://www.axa-winterthur.ch/Fr/part...de-maison.aspx

http://www.axa-winterthur.ch/Fr/part...ompte-avs.aspx

http://www.pas-de-travail-au-noir.ch...x.html?lang=fr

Some useful links
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If you work for the employer for more than 8 hours per week then of course! Otherwise you would be illegally employed!

Wife's employer didn't take out accident insurance (I think)
Thanks Ittigen, good to know.
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Thanks Ittigen, good to know.

wait, so if i were to babysit on the weekends while the parents go out to dinner, would i have to have a work permit for that?

and are the wages similar for dog/house-sitting?
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Old 26.03.2011, 14:38
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wait, so if i were to babysit on the weekends while the parents go out to dinner, would i have to have a work permit for that?

and are the wages similar for dog/house-sitting?
If you are getting paid for the work you need to have a work permit.
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Old 26.03.2011, 15:55
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How much would an hourly-rate be for a part time nanny job(non qualified)? 2 afternoons per week/approximately 10 hours per week, taking care of 2 kids. How much should I be charging with/without a contract?
As BabyNanny says above between 25-35F per hour.

You should always have a contract. What do you mean "without a contract"?
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Old 26.03.2011, 16:07
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

So I am guessing this wouldn't be a legal practice? From here

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We have 3 girls--ages 8, 10, 13 and twin boys (15 months old).The girls need help with German homework as well as being picked up from school and taken to various activities. For the girls, we need primarily help in the afternoon after they finish school (so after 3pm except Wednesday when they finish at lunch time). For the boys--our 10 month old twins, we need help throughout the day (7am-8pm)---taking them for walks, playing with them, feeding them etc. Sometimes, we need help with lunch and dinner for the afternoon or evening shift. I travel a lot on business or work late when I am in Basel. So generally we have one babysitter in the morning and 2 in the afternoon. We also need help during the weekend. I usually make the babysitting schedule 1 week in advance or more and I am quite flexible on availability given that I have 4-5 babysitters helping us. I can pay 10CHF/ hour. So if these are of interest to you, best would be to schedule an interview--so we meet you and you can meet us. We live in the center, near Aeschenplatz. Regards Ioana Tudor
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Old 26.03.2011, 16:22
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So I am guessing this wouldn't be a legal practice? From here
I think she means she can pay 10F per hour per kid, no?
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I think she means she can pay 10F per hour per kid, no?
Me think not...

Or she is freaking rich to have 4-5 nannies working for her at the normal wage. In that case it is not a home nanny anymore but a kindergarten, no?
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Old 26.03.2011, 16:43
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Me think not...

Or she is freaking rich to have 4-5 nannies working for her at the normal wage. In that case it is not a home nanny anymore but a kindergarten, no?
I don't know how the embarrassed smiley got in there. I meant to put the smiley.

Is it possible she already has a bunch of nannies working for 10F per hour???
Expecting someone to take care of your 5 kids for 10F per hour has to be a joke.

What I don't get is if they are there alone or with one of the parents.
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I don't know how the embarrassed smiley got in there. I meant to put the smiley.

Is it possible she already has a bunch of nannies working for 10F per hour???
Expecting someone to take care of your 5 kids for 10F per hour has to be a joke.

What I don't get is if they are there alone or with one of the parents.
It sounds like she is away on business and working long hours in Basel. She is making a schedule every week. So, maybe dividing minimum 40 hours care between 5 people to try and get around the 8 hour maximum hours for registreing with AHV? But, 10 CHF, is less than a teenager might take for babysitting. Isn't it also below minimum wage? Sounds like a frightening situation for the kids and probably illegal.
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Old 26.03.2011, 17:58
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10.- per hour is like a joke. On one hand we have people wanting services for 10.- and on the other there are posts are 120'000 enough to live in Switzerland?

It's a bit of a paradox.

I would feel ashamed to pay 10.- per hour. That is the reason my cleaning lady gets more and she has also got her AHV etc.
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