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Old 27.03.2011, 12:36
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

Ok, I understand.

But maybe you had a generous employer.

I never heard that before, but do agree that there is a point.

Nevertheless, I still think traveling time is the "problem" of the employee.

If someone lives in Bern and has a few hours job in Zurich, then both parties should be smart enough to realize that it's a bit odd regarding travel time.
Or you negotiate more hours per week.

Another problem is that many private employer forget about social and accident insurance, in other words the agreement is illegal (Schwarzarbeit).
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Old 27.03.2011, 13:27
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

From my knowledge, a full time nanny's wage starts at 3500-4000 gross. This is for student turned nanny type and rises from there.

You also need to add to the cost your costs a employer for insurance, AHV/AVS etc.

A full time krippe/creche in Zurich is typically around 2500, little more for babies and little less for toddlers.

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Old 27.03.2011, 18:24
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

I think there was a mentioning of a babysitter. Babysitter and nanny are not the same.
A nanny would work the whole day, be responsible for nursery duties and so on. A babysitter would come in the evening, when the children are just going to bed or are in bed already and hope they are not going to wake up until the parents come back. I would think the babysitter will be payed less than a nanny.
You can have babysitters here from the age of 13, if they have completed the course with Red Cross, if I'm not mistaken.


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I don't know how the embarrassed smiley got in there. I meant to put the smiley.

Is it possible she already has a bunch of nannies working for 10F per hour???
Expecting someone to take care of your 5 kids for 10F per hour has to be a joke.

What I don't get is if they are there alone or with one of the parents.
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Old 27.03.2011, 18:29
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

Also in England you pay more, a live out nanny in London would be earning 12 pounds / hour. 10 CHF / hr is just not acceptable at all. How could a nanny who earns that much would ever be able to afford a flat?

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I don't even want to imagine the kids going around the week with so many people looking after them without any consistancy...

I think it is fishy... She has two posts one is from February and all the kids have 1 year younger than the today's post.

In Europe (Germany, Spain) The normal average wage for a nanny is 10 Euro / hour. But it is Europe, not Swiss price and cost of leaving...
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I think there was a mentioning of a babysitter. Babysitter and nanny are not the same.
A nanny would work the whole day, be responsible for nursery duties and so on. A babysitter would come in the evening, when the children are just going to bed or are in bed already and hope they are not going to wake up until the parents come back. I would think the babysitter will be payed less than a nanny.
You can have babysitters here from the age of 13, if they have completed the course with Red Cross, if I'm not mistaken.
She can call it whatever she wants. But from description it doesn't sound to me like "babysitting". If she is looking for someone to "babysit" from 7am to 8pm what is that? Again, if she wants someone to help while one of the parents is there, that's one thing But if she expects someone to be there alone with all 5 kids that's quite different & it's frankly I think it's rather a joke to offer to pay someone 10F an hour. But hey, if someone wants the job then they can work it out between them.

I'd be happy to hire someone to help me around the house from 7am to 8pm for 10F an hour. No taking care of babies required. Only housework, cleaning, laundry, gardening, maybe cooking for two not picky adults if anyone likes cooking. Much easier than taking care of 5 kids.
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

I wasn't trying to argue here with you. Please do not get me wrong. IMO even a babysitter (as described by me) should be earning more than 10 CHF / hr. But maybe this person would read this thread and start thinking about what the going salaries for nannies are.

This person is clearly looking for a nanny, possibly even two at the same time, with 5 children one has to be very busy. Even for a very hardworking nanny, this would be an extremely busy job and not much or a financial reward. Nanny has to make a living too.

If anybody needs a job, I'm sure they would be able to find something else.

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She can call it whatever she wants. But from description it doesn't sound to me like "babysitting". If she is looking for someone to "babysit" from 7am to 8pm what is that? Again, if she wants someone to help while one of the parents is there, that's one thing But if she expects someone to be there alone with all 5 kids that's quite different & it's frankly I think it's rather a joke to offer to pay someone 10F an hour. But hey, if someone wants the job then they can work it out between them.

I'd be happy to hire someone to help me around the house from 7am to 8pm for 10F an hour. No taking care of babies required. Only housework, cleaning, laundry, gardening, maybe cooking for two not picky adults if anyone likes cooking. Much easier than taking care of 5 kids.
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Old 28.03.2011, 00:35
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I wasn't trying to argue here with you. Please do not get me wrong. IMO even a babysitter (as described by me) should be earning more than 10 CHF / hr. But maybe this person would read this thread and start thinking about what the going salaries for nannies are.

This person is clearly looking for a nanny, possibly even two at the same time, with 5 children one has to be very busy. Even for a very hardworking nanny, this would be an extremely busy job and not much or a financial reward. Nanny has to make a living too.

If anybody needs a job, I'm sure they would be able to find something else.
Oh, I know you weren't arguing. I hope I didn't come across as argumentative. But I think I probably do sometimes.

We really don't know what that poster is looking for, maybe just a mommy's helper type (with 5 kids she probably needs it!) or if she is getting any replies. Maybe she is!?

Anyway, I'd still like a Mia's helper for 10F an hour! LOL.
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Re: Minimum wage for nanny

Here are the salaries as set up by the Université of Lausanne for reference for students work.

http://www.unil.ch/sasc/page6285.html

it is a good starting point for discussion... 12.-/hour for a non-qualified young student, not including any house work. You will notice that as soon as it becomes homework support, it goes up to 20 to 30.- per hour.
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