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Old 28.06.2011, 21:43
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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Wow, that is great news!!

Thanks for getting back and giving us an update, so many times threads start and we never know the outcome.

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Old 28.06.2011, 22:15
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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Hi

Congrats on the job
I just read the whole tread and it really gave me some good ideas

i am currently looking for an internship (yes, im just a student) and is really frustrating to get one after another rejection letters, and as bad punchline at the end of the day you get the question.. did you find anything yet? .. makes you think you are doing it all wrong..

but seeing that you get a job, and reading all the advices, i really feel that is not that impossible... so thank you for the inspiration ;D
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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Great Stuff. Well Done!

Some questions: Was your lack of German an issue with this Job?

What kind of company is it? You don't need to reveal it, but is it a big multinational or a traditional swiss company?

What is the job? Is it HR or Marketing or something different?

Did you get any feedback yet as to why they decided you were good for the job?

Perhaps the answers to these questions could help others in your situation.

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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Hi Andrea,

I saw your post earlier, and as I went on with the reading and was scrolling down the page I kept hoping that by the time I get to read the last post your situation would be different and the post would look something like "Hey guys, I got a joooob!!"
Well, you must be in the clouds right now, cause you did it! I am very happy for you! And I sympathize with everybody who went through what you did, all those months of waiting and being rejected, I can't even imagine what it must have been like.
I'm moving to Switzerland in a few weeks, I sure hope I will make it
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I was offered a job for a company here and will start working very soon ! I am very excited and looking forward to this new chapter in my life. I just wanted to share with you this story because I hope it will be a morale boosting for all those who look for a job and find themselves overwhelmed and flirting with a miserable state of mind.
Congrats! It is so good to hear that news! I'm really happy for you!
When are you starting? I hope you'll like it
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Wow, that is great news!!

Thanks for getting back and giving us an update, so many times threads start and we never know the outcome.

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Hey there Smackerjack ,

Well I am simply doing what it's normal to do, which is to give hope when all you have is disappointments, frustration and anger.
And let me say "Thank you English Forum" because I was spotted for the job that I have now as a result of this thread that I started!
Apart from very good advices I got a chance for a job, which I took and this translates as a success for this forum, I would think!
All my best to you and thank you for the kind words,
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Hi

Congrats on the job
I just read the whole tread and it really gave me some good ideas

i am currently looking for an internship (yes, im just a student) and is really frustrating to get one after another rejection letters, and as bad punchline at the end of the day you get the question.. did you find anything yet? .. makes you think you are doing it all wrong..

but seeing that you get a job, and reading all the advices, i really feel that is not that impossible... so thank you for the inspiration ;D
Which areas are you looking for an Internship here and where exactly?
Cheers,
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Great Stuff. Well Done!

Some questions: Was your lack of German an issue with this Job?

What kind of company is it? You don't need to reveal it, but is it a big multinational or a traditional swiss company?

What is the job? Is it HR or Marketing or something different?

Did you get any feedback yet as to why they decided you were good for the job?

Perhaps the answers to these questions could help others in your situation.

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Hey there spiderdaddy,

My lack of German was not an issue, it was mentioned as a question during interview, but no, and that's merely because the company is international, UK based and they work with English very well!
It is an international company with many offices opened all over the world, but I figured that with my lack of good German, there is a high probability that I would be hired by a company such as the one I work for now and not the traditional Swiss one . And the location is in Zurich, which is also important if your level of German is not very good
Actually my job is of Recruitment Consultant so HR which I find it great because I thought at one point when I was searching that I would have to settle for jobs different from the ones in which I already have experience! But it didn't happen like that, yeeey!
Yes, I was invited to two interviews with them, and after that I was asked whether I wanted to join their team and of course the answer was "YES"!

Please feel free to ask me as many questions as possible, I will try to help you as good as I can! It's the least I can do (sorry for the late reply, it was a pretty busy week with a lot of new adjustments)

Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Congrats for the job, Andreea. Your thread kept popping up here on EF and I think that finally getting a job means a huge lot to you I wish you the best of luck
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Congrats! It is so good to hear that news! I'm really happy for you!
When are you starting? I hope you'll like it
Thanks so much new-bee,

I started on Friday(sorry for the late reply) and I am looking forward for the next week when I will get more and more involved!

Thanks again for the kind wishes,
Cheers,
Andreea

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Hi Andrea,

I saw your post earlier, and as I went on with the reading and was scrolling down the page I kept hoping that by the time I get to read the last post your situation would be different and the post would look something like "Hey guys, I got a joooob!!"
Well, you must be in the clouds right now, cause you did it! I am very happy for you! And I sympathize with everybody who went through what you did, all those months of waiting and being rejected, I can't even imagine what it must have been like.
I'm moving to Switzerland in a few weeks, I sure hope I will make it
Hey there Karmi,

Well I hope this helps you and remember if you have doubts, questions, feel like things are not going in the direction you want, reach out and tell others. My experience showed that EF'es are more than willing to share information and offer advice if you reach out! This is a wonderful forum to all those moving to Switzerland, so use it ;
Where will you move here in Switzerland? Which areas would you like to find a job?
Tell us about you after you settle here, ok?

Best of luck!
Andreea

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Congrats for the job, Andreea. Your thread kept popping up here on EF and I think that finally getting a job means a huge lot to you I wish you the best of luck
Thanks so much Greenmount for the kind wishes!

I really does mean a lot to me, and I have English Forum to thank for that!
I hope I will be able to give something back, in return for this chance

Cheers,
Andreea

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Old 03.07.2011, 19:24
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Which areas are you looking for an Internship here and where exactly?
Cheers,
Andreea
I am a mechatronic student, so i can i┤m looking in mechanical, electric, electronic or system areas .. or a combination of them

I took german clases back home (mexiko) so i understand most of the time when people talks with me, but I need more practice with me, answering back .. so i think im going to sign for course that can help me practice my german.

Im actually looking everywhere, i am not marry to a single place.. altought im staying in zurich right now and looking mainly here.. i also search in other places in switzerland..... and since its only me..and i have not much stuff with me (came to the country with only my clothes) i only bought a matress and a kind of clothes organizer for the place i┤m currently staying.

and again thanks for the thread
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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Congratulations. I'm struggling big time with finding a job here. I've recently started doing some teaching on an hourly basis twice a week. It's not an official job but its giving me some pocket money and feels like i'm making some minor progress.

My experiences of looking for a job in my field are that there are only a few jobs at any given time that are a near perfect fit to my profile. I've tried applying for jobs even when i'm lacking one or two things in the job description by rewording my cv. I've recently applied for an internship as well. I've rung up agencies and they have told me not to bother applying for jobs unless your profile exactly matches the job. One by one i'm exhausting every possible avenue. I feel like i have a lot of very good educational, work and life experiences going for me yet i feel pretty helpless when it comes to finding a job here. I'm even starting to wonder if i can get even the most basic job here and even when i can i will still have a feeling of satisfaction and given my circumstances i can't work in a low level job for very long.
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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Hi there,

Sorry that you are having a rough time in Switzerland. I'm sure it will get better.
Even though I am not in your position, I do fear I will be in the future...
But, to help me get started off on the right foot, I've been researching everything I feel is important for me to know and find before my family and I move. Such as how to create a CV and better market myself. I'm also reviewing my German that I've taking in the past.
As I am new to this English Forum, it might be of help if you were to go through it. There is so much information that I have found to be useful. For example, I just typed in the search engine "german books for sale" and found: http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.p...books+for+sale You might be able to bargain with the people who are selling the books and have it mailed to your home. Another post, which I can't remember the tittle, from my search -- lead me to: http://www.livemocha.com/ . Its where you can learn German online for free. I just joined and so far I find it to be very helpful.
You can also type "learning german" in the search engine. There are groups that meet to practice their German. This will get you to meet new people and have fun while learning German (possibly for free).--Networking.
Good luck and don't give up. I'm sure I will be looking to you in the future for advice of how to get a job and how to see the positive side of things in Switzerland.
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If there is any way I can help you. In researching or if you just need to talk to someone. Send me a private message. I would be happy to help.


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Hi everyone,
I have been going through a rough phase, for sometime now. This is not only a complaint post about why I don't have a job yet (although as you will read you will see bits of "why me...!?"moments), I also seek advice from forum members that have been experienced similar situations and successfully recovered from that and also members that have sympathy for situations such as mine.


I moved here last year in Sepetmber and since then looked for a job. I asked at one point some advice on EF about how to find a job here, and there were a lot of very good advices to which I bow my head and say "Thank you!" Now, we are mid March 2011 and not a single interview call. Rejection after rejection.

I went to an EURES job adviser in Aargau and sat down with her and we discussed my CV, what I should change in it, how my Cover Letter should look like, all that jazz. I followed her advice, I translated my CV in German, because you get a few points for that, the adviser told me I should try Internships with foreign companies that have offices here (like ABB, Alstom etc.) and I did, I send them all my data, I registered on other Recruitment Agencies webistes, to have my data for available jobs, and again a big nothing. Quick rejection email to jobs that require "stilsicheres Deutsch oder Muttersprache Deutsch".

I know a major setback is the fact that I am a beginner in Deutsch, but I have other skills that might be of help. I worked in Office Management and also had experience with marketing and have a Human Resources Master's Degree. Yes, it's not done in Switzerland, but what does that mean, that all my studies are simple pieces of paper? I don't know the language that well because I have no German friends here, I know no swiss people who also know English in case I want to ask them something about German. Please don't throw stones at me for not going to Migros language courses, the reason I did that was because I am on a severe tight budget with myself and since I haven't exhausted all the alternatives to learning the language for free (for the moment) I thought I wouldn't go yet to paid courses.

But I am really considering that now, so please be kind. When I applied for jobs I even mentioned I would work on a voluntary basis for a while, just to be exposed to German speaking environment and that way to learn the language much quicker. It didn't help me. I am here for 5 months and I didn't go to a single interview. Oh wait, there was one time when I actually searched for companies in my region that have business relationships with Romanian companies (as I am Romanian native speaker) and I found one and I went there smiling with my dossier and offered them my services, I knew they had no jobs offerings but I had the initiative to tell them that I could help them in being a translator with secretarial attributes and also I knew the region they were present in Romania as I grew up there...they told me they will hold my data but they promise nothing, I said I could work for the beginning on a voluntary basis just to show what I'm made of, and they said that "well, we would have to find you something according to your education and experience" and that translates as "it would be a pain in the *** for us, so why would we bother?".

I have my ups and downs. Sometimes I am well and think about the day I will get that job and other times, like now I am sick of having this life where every day I feel like I'm in a lighted room that gets darker and darker with every hour. I feel cornered, and I am so sick of the question :"did you find a job?"...I am not that young anymore and I am in this beautiful country with no perspectives and I feel hopeless.


I know most of you will say "well why did you come here, nobody made you, go back from where you came from", so let me answer that. I came here because my hubby was offered a job here and in Ro the employment marketplace was so poor and insecure that it actually gave you the creeps. I have to try and make a future for myself, right?


Yes I know that another issue is my nationality, but I came to terms with that and I am trying to do my best to fight it with my qualities as a human being, and not be perceived as a representative of a certain nationality.

The thing that actually made me really upset this time was the fact that yesterday as I was coming back from grocery store I saluted some old couple and the man said something to me in Swiss Deutsch and I couldn't understand and he repeated and he was smiling and I felt so ashamed that I didn't know to answer back that I thought to myself "what kind of person am I? I come to a beautiful country and I don't even know the language?"; that sparked a guilty feel and I felt even more out of place here. Switzerland is a beautiful country and is a wonderful one IF you have a job....

So, I am without job for 5 months, with no perspective on sight and flirting with mild depression. If you have been in a similar situation (though I sincerely hope you have not) or you have some advice for me as to how to pass sensitive time, I would be very happy to receive you comments.

Cheers,
Andreea

PS: as I was writing this post, I received another rejection email to a Team Assistant job...
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Re: Lack of job, plenty of problems...

Hi Andrea,

Just read through the end of your thread. Congratulations in getting a job. I do hope I will be able to find one when the time comes.
All the best to you.
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