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Experiences obtaining a self employment (with the intention to offer private tutoring

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone (who has already acquired a self employed permit in order to offer private tutoring) has been refused a permit>

I'm unsure if it is possible to be refused such a permit: whether you need to predict a minimum amount of income in order to be classified as self employed.

I'm also unsure about whether I should apply for a permit before, or work for a few months, collect my receipts and then calculate a more realistic yearly income and put this on the form, instead of guessing how much I'll make and potentially over/underpaying my social contributions.

Thanks in advance.

@ Mods: I know that several threads already exist but they are often conflicting, hence wanting to ask people who had applied for a permit for the specific reason that I want one.

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Re: Experiences obtaining a self employment for private tutoring.

There's no such thing as a "permit for private tutoring".

There is the option of being self-employed, which can of course be the way one offers/bills teaching. But this has been discussed and answered many times here...
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You go to the canton Tax authority and tell them you want to be self employed. They register you and expect you to keep proper records and pay the Mehrwertsteuer (VAT, TVA, sales tax) to them. I think you can only do this if you are Swiss or have a C permit.

If you are employed, keep proper records and declare your self employed income with your annual Tax declaration in March.
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Re: Experiences obtaining a self employment (with the intention to offer private tuto

Once my wife got three students, she went to the tax people, showed them the invoices she'd raised, and her business cards. A few weeks later she got an AHV number for working self-employed.

She has a c-permit, but if your permit (B or whatever) has no restrictions on your employment, you can also be self-employed.
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Re: Experiences obtaining a self employment (with the intention to offer private tuto

What if one doesn't have any permit to start with?
I too would like to post offers, in this case as software trainer.

(EU 15 national)

Thanks. (I'll keep on searching meanwhile)
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Re: Experiences obtaining a self employment (with the intention to offer private tuto

Forgot to mention, this can be done in offices or just for individuals in their own homes.

Would it be better to set up as an independent worker in France and work in both countries? can this be done? would i report only to France, tax wise?
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Re: Experiences obtaining a self employment (with the intention to offer private tuto

Found this:

As a rule, self-employment is only allowed if you have a permanent residence permit (C permit). Foreign nationals are only permitted to pursue self-employment, if this employment satisfies overall economic interests and if the necessary financial and operational requirements are met. In addition, personal requirements must be met and suitable housing must be available.

http://www.ch.ch/private/00054/00055...x.html?lang=en


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Les ressortissants de l'UE/AELE ainsi que les travailleurs détachés par des entreprises dont le siège se trouve dans un Etat membre de l’UE/AELE qui exerce une activité lucrative en Suisse d'une durée maximale de trois mois ou 90 jours par année civile n’ont plus besoin d’une autorisation. Ils restent toutefois astreints à une obligation de s'annoncer. Les Bulgares et les Roumains bénéficient également de cette réglementation mais uniquement pour certaines situations bien déterminées.


http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...verfahren.html


Question:

these 90 days are working days straight or can be split throughout the year?
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Found this:

As a rule, self-employment is only allowed if you have a permanent residence permit (C permit). Foreign nationals are only permitted to pursue self-employment, if this employment satisfies overall economic interests and if the necessary financial and operational requirements are met. In addition, personal requirements must be met and suitable housing must be available.
But you found it under the header "Non EU/EFTA Nationals"
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Once my wife got three students, she went to the tax people, showed them the invoices she'd raised, and her business cards. A few weeks later she got an AHV number for working self-employed.

She has a c-permit, but if your permit (B or whatever) has no restrictions on your employment, you can also be self-employed.
Hi all.... just wanted to say what my "self employed" experience has been, see if it helps.
I have an L permit, and recently registered at the AHV office in zug. They had told me a few weeks ago that i couldnt register with them until i had some invoices of work done. So i went along with 3 invoices, they helped me to fill in a form and that was it. They said i can carry on working while i wait for my AHV number, and still carry on issuing invoices. They said it would take about 3 weeks for the process to be completed.

I asked about the L permit and was told it was no problem........ i have seen on a few threads that many think you need a Cpermit or whatever, but that is not my experience.....

Next step is to register for taxes, federal and cantonal so that is at 2 different offices.....will let you know how that goes when i have done it.
I have asked a few officials now about the whole process they have all assured me that it is all a very easy process and not to worry.......

good luck!!!
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You go to the canton Tax authority and tell them you want to be self employed. They register you and expect you to keep proper records and pay the Mehrwertsteuer (VAT, TVA, sales tax) to them. I think you can only do this if you are Swiss or have a C permit.

If you are employed, keep proper records and declare your self employed income with your annual Tax declaration in March.
Hi all,

could someone please tell me the german name of the 'canton tax authoriy' I should report the fees I am charging the few students I am tutoring? and how do I calculate and pay the Mehrwertsteuer? I already have an AHV number as well as a C permit.

when I asked at my Gemeindehaus they said I didn't need to do anything at all until next March when I declare my taxes! yet it seems much too easy, even for Switzerland....

any info is much appreciated!
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Hi all,

could someone please tell me the german name of the 'canton tax authoriy' I should report the fees I am charging the few students I am tutoring? and how do I calculate and pay the Mehrwertsteuer? I already have an AHV number as well as a C permit.

when I asked at my Gemeindehaus they said I didn't need to do anything at all until next March when I declare my taxes! yet it seems much too easy, even for Switzerland....

any info is much appreciated!
If your annual revenues are less than CHF 100'000, you do not fall under VAT. This means that you would not charge your students output VAT but also cannot deduct input VAT charged by your suppliers:

https://www.ktipp.ch/artikel/d/10-fr...bstaendigkeit/
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Hi all,

could someone please tell me the german name of the 'canton tax authoriy' ....
When self-employed, you need only declare your income at the time when you file your personal income tax return .... so the answer to your question is " the same people you file your normal tax return with "
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When self-employed, you need only declare your income at the time when you file your personal income tax return ....
Thanks, deebeevee. I did that, plus registered with

https://www.svazurich.ch/internet/de/home/private.html

After filling in a form online, they wrote to ask for some clarifications, then sent me a bill for my sva contributions. It looks like that's all that needs to be done. Easy peasy.
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