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Working as a nanny - agency or sole trader?

Hi there - I am going to be working for 12-24 months in Zurich. My girlfriend is a qualified montessori teacher, who is looking at the possibility of working as an English speaking nanny when we are there. The idea would be to find something part-time, where she works as a live-out nanny.

She's been reading up on it, and sees the average hourly wage seems to be 25-30 CHF per hour for this sort of work, with enough experience and qualifications. She is Irish, so should be easy to get a visa.

The question is really about how the logistics of this would work. Is it fair to say there are 2 options?
1) Agency - find an agency, register with them, and find work that way. She in essence becomes an employee of the agency
2) Without Agency - she finds a family (through a forum like this), and agrees an arrangement with them. Then she basically works as a sole trader and gets paid by the family and sorts her own taxes etc.

Just wondering - are these the only 2 options and which of this is more common, better do you think?

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Old 09.05.2011, 16:41
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Re: Working as a nanny - agency or sole trader?

There is no such thing as a "sole trader" when working directly as a nanny for a family. She is treated under the law as an employee of the family with all of the paperwork and social charges/taxes/insurances being handled by the family. She will of course have to handle her portion of the social charges.

She should not do a deal under the table. Will create permit issues if she is caught. She may even be tossed out of the country.
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Re: Working as a nanny - agency or sole trader?

Hi there - understand...
1) get a job offer / family
2) get a visa, they are her employer
3) they look after employer aspects
4) she looks after her usual taxes etc

Great cheers!
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Go through an agency if you want her to be treated fairly
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Re: Working as a nanny - agency or sole trader?

hi - understand. At least are both options 1) could work direct or 2) could do agency. Was just thinking about how the logistics of it would work. Hopefully she'd find something is 30, qualified montessori teacher, native English speaker, sporty and arty and great with kids, with a full clean driving licence.

so hopefully is a market out there!
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Re: Working as a nanny - agency or sole trader?

She can test the waters by registering on one of the nanny websites. Search EF for the website names.

She can be pretty specific about what she is offering, as of when and where she wants to be (close to where you live I imagine). She should also specify live-in/out so it is clear from the beginning.
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hi - understand. At least are both options 1) could work direct or 2) could do agency. Was just thinking about how the logistics of it would work. Hopefully she'd find something is 30, qualified montessori teacher, native English speaker, sporty and arty and great with kids, with a full clean driving licence.

so hopefully is a market out there!
You will get lowballed by the majority of private people. They aren't looking for a nanny most of the time but more a slave.

My wife got an offer for 60 hours a week for 800 francs PER MONTH. This involved some weekends and going on holiday with the family.

She also got screwed over when she had an accident and her employer didn't take out accident insurance for her.

You are more protected in an agency


Disclaimer: Of course there are some family that like to do things fairly and properly. Some of which I know on this very forum so please don't be offended.
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Re: Working as a nanny - agency or sole trader?

understand - the thinking is to pick a part time, live out role with a family close to Zurich. I guess the expectation is 20-40 hours a week.

Thanks for feedback. Once we have definite arrival dates (hopefully in next 4-6 weeks!!!) we'll get onto it!

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