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Ignored by... recruiters: is it normal?

Dear all,

I'm quite new to the forum.
I'm living in UK and considering moving into Switzerland.

I am looking for a job in the IT but what I found strange is that when I apply to a post advertised in some web site and my application goes to recruiters / head hunters, they don't bother answering me.

If I apply directly to a company they occasionally say: 'no thanks', or sometime the ignore my application.
But being ignored from a Company is somehow understood (even if never polite), while being ignored from a recruiter is very weird.

Is this normal in Switzerland or was I just unlucky?

My experience in UK is that even if your CV is not a 100% match, recruiters call you the day after or few hours later to have a chat and understand more about your expectations and skills.

Any suggestions?

Thanks to everyone.
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Re: Ignored by... recruiters: is it normal?

There's a thread on this very subject running right now.

How's that for coincidence?
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Re: Ignored by... recruiters: is it normal?

well, I thought my question was more specific than the argument discussed in that thread, but I don't mind moving there....
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Re: Ignored by... recruiters: is it normal?

yep perfectly normal, your not in the country, don't have a permit etc etc and there are hundreds, probably thousands of people already here who are applying for the job, why bother even looking at someone who is going to cause them effort and expense.
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Re: Ignored by... recruiters: is it normal?

I'm on close-ish terms with a couple of IT recruiters in London and they say whenever one of their vacancies lands on Jobserve they get totally inundated with CVs. Apparently, many come from India regardless of whether the job says "must be able to work in the EU" or not.

So I imagine recruiters based here in Switzerland will have the same issue - many emails from people not resident here and they simply can't be bothered to answer them all. More worryingly, though, is the fact they may not read them all. Taking my example above, an email may have come from an Indian email address but someone with a British passport (or whatever) wanting to return home.

You need to make sure the subject line and first sentence really stand out. And, even better, follow up pretty quickly with a phone call if you're serious.
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yep perfectly normal, your not in the country, don't have a permit etc etc and there are hundreds, probably thousands of people already here who are applying for the job, why bother even looking at someone who is going to cause them effort and expense.

What you say it makes sense unfortunately.
I thought head hunters would be the best option to find a job from abroad (it worked well in the past for me), but maybe not.
Thanks for your view
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You need to make sure the subject line and first sentence really stand out. And, even better, follow up pretty quickly with a phone call if you're serious.
Thanks, I will keep this in mind.
Especially the phone call... I thought it was a kind of... 'all fashioned' but you are probably right.
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What you say it makes sense unfortunately.
I thought head hunters would be the best option to find a job from abroad (it worked well in the past for me), but maybe not.
Thanks for your view

word of mouth is your best bet, know anyone working here already? look on company website, I know the place I work for has loads of IT jobs going, but finding staff with the correct skills is a pita

I'm sure if you posted your skill set and experience up on here people working for the big players would be able to have a quick look on the internal job notice boards to see if you fit, they'd also get a nice bonus if you got the job
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Thanks, I will keep this in mind.
Especially the phone call... I thought it was a kind of... 'all fashioned' but you are probably right.
Old fashioned, presumably?
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word of mouth is your best bet, know anyone working here already? look on company website, I know the place I work for has loads of IT jobs going, but finding staff with the correct skills is a pita

I'm sure if you posted your skill set and experience up on here people working for the big players would be able to have a quick look on the internal job notice boards to see if you fit, they'd also get a nice bonus if you got the job
Good suggestion, thanks.
I'm quite new to the forum: do you mean I should write about my skills somewhere in my profile?
Or rather having a post like: "I'll work for food - I am a C++ embedded SW developer"?

Last thing - as I'm new here - you said your company for example as loads of IT jobs going. On that basis would it be considered to be intrusive to send you a PM?
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Old fashioned, presumably?
Indeed, sorry
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Good suggestion, thanks.
I'm quite new to the forum: do you mean I should write about my skills somewhere in my profile?
Or rather having a post like: "I'll work for food - I am a C++ embedded SW developer"?

Last thing - as I'm new here - you said your company for example as loads of IT jobs going. On that basis would it be considered to be intrusive to send you a PM?

send away, if I get you a job here I'll get a wad of cash
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But being ignored from a Company is somehow understood (even if never polite), while being ignored from a recruiter is very weird.
Many just don't bother reading all CVs, if you think you are a good match call them. I am quite satisfied with a couple of them.

By the way, many are from the UK (esp in Zurich) so the strategy might work even better if you have the same accent.
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send away, if I get you a job here I'll get a wad of cash
Not to hijack the topic, but what sums are we talking about in CH? I have heard about 5000chf in one company, but just one.
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