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Old 30.06.2011, 16:45
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

In some catalogues a single female can cost as little as 2000usd - I'm not sure why a man would be more expensive.

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Old 30.06.2011, 17:03
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

Thank you kind sir for your question and providing the entertainment for the day on EF. As you can see we love to help people who have salary questions

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I received a job offer paying 110 k CHF per annum (9,166 monthly) with guaranteed bonus. I am single and vegetarian. Company pays health insurance. Question is whether this salary is adequate or will I need to be extra thrifty?

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I have in the last seven years not met one manager who earns as little as 110k per year. At leats not in Zurich or Geneva.
How much does a manager earn then?
And what in your oppinion is a manager?
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

Three red blobbies for asking a stupid question?

Proportionate response, anyone?
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Old 30.06.2011, 17:33
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

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Proportionate response, anyone?
Three red blobbies and eleven groans.

And a warm welcome to the English Forum.

Seriously, the guy asked a silly question and didn't do a search. But Christ, tough crowd.
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Old 30.06.2011, 17:38
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I have in the last seven years not met one manager who earns as little as 110k per year. At leats not in Zurich or Geneva.
Would you like fries with that?

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I have in the last seven years not met one manager who earns as little as 110k per year. At leats not in Zurich or Geneva.
I once managed a pre-school for 65k per year.

Of course, that was before I'd discovered the English Forum, and had no idea that it was impossible to live on less than 120k.
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Old 30.06.2011, 17:50
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

Wow ..... this is a runner!

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Don't be surprised if some replies seem less helpful.
OP (PJ) - the last line from my post#4 (reply#3) - I did warn you - you're in for a shock when you wake up - about now.

Take it on the chin, and go forward - we're not that bad here .... but next time you ask a dumb, not well-thought-out question - at least quantify and personalise it; and make it little less vague and faceless.
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Old 30.06.2011, 17:55
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

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How much does a manager earn then?
And what in your oppinion is a manager?
In my opinion is a manager a person who has direct reports. So he manages people. Yes, there are "project managers", "product managers", "sales managers"... anyone puts it somewhere in the title down to the cleaning lady junior facility manager. But for me only somebody who is sombody's boss qualifies as management.

In the areas I worked in Zurich (IT and telco) did qualified IT people usually earn anything between 80 and 120k a year (sometimes more). At the companies I worked, I am pretty sure that any team lead would be at least at 125-150k and from there up.
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Three red blobbies and eleven groans.

And a warm welcome to the English Forum.

Seriously, the guy asked a silly question and didn't do a search. But Christ, tough crowd.
I agree,

The punishment doesn't fit the crime here.
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Old 30.06.2011, 18:10
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In my opinion is a manager a person who has direct reports. So he manages people. Yes, there are "project managers", "product managers", "sales managers"... anyone puts it somewhere in the title down to the cleaning lady junior facility manager. But for me only somebody who is sombody's boss qualifies as management.

In the areas I worked in Zurich (IT and telco) did qualified IT people usually earn anything between 80 and 120k a year (sometimes more). At the companies I worked, I am pretty sure that any team lead would be at least at 125-150k and from there up.
Agreed, nowadays everybody is a kind of "manager".
Also 125k to 150k seems to me fair evaluation of a (low) management position.
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Old 30.06.2011, 18:14
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I agree,

The punishment doesn't fit the crime here.
I heard a friend of mine gave him some greenies. Seems like a nice gesture .
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Old 30.06.2011, 18:21
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In my opinion is a manager a person who has direct reports. So he manages people. Yes, there are "project managers", "product managers", "sales managers"... anyone puts it somewhere in the title down to the cleaning lady junior facility manager. But for me only somebody who is sombody's boss qualifies as management.

In the areas I worked in Zurich (IT and telco) did qualified IT people usually earn anything between 80 and 120k a year (sometimes more). At the companies I worked, I am pretty sure that any team lead would be at least at 125-150k and from there up.
for me a manager is someone who is responsible for a significant function/process/product/etc. and has a large degree of autonomy to manage that responsibility as he sees fit.
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Old 30.06.2011, 18:27
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for me a manager is someone who is responsible for a significant function/process/product/etc. and has a large degree of autonomy to manage that responsibility as he sees fit.
Let me guess. You don't have direct reports but you too want to be a manager? me too, but on EF I am honest about it....
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Old 30.06.2011, 18:53
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I have in the last seven years not met one manager who earns as little as 110k per year. At leats not in Zurich or Geneva.
I guess it depends what you mean by "manager". Some titles are given for free and also some managers manage two or three people.
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

To the trolls and grumpy groans: sorry for the noob post and I wish I was from your home where, obviously, “all the men are good looking and all the children are above average”. For the helpful: thank you. After consulting various websites and this forum and receiving partial and/or inconsistent answers I needed to ask such a question for the sake of reassurance. Coming from a very poor family anything above subsistence will be living like a king. Again, thanks for the help
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Old 30.06.2011, 20:05
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Re: IS 110K CHF sufficient for single guy?

Maybe a good reason to be paid 120kchf* instead of 110kchf:
- you don't pay tax at source, you'll have to fill a tax declaration once a year.

Salarium is a good tool to estimate your salary range for a given responsibility and industry sector.

*120kchf is the limit in Canton Bern....don't know about geneva, you need to check.
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Old 30.06.2011, 20:07
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I received a job offer paying 110 k CHF per annum (9,166 monthly) with guaranteed bonus. I am single and vegetarian. Company pays health insurance. Question is whether this salary is adequate or will I need to be extra thrifty?
Half that is sufficient for single guy under those conditions.

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I never thought of that! I want a slinky.
Do you have an escalator?

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Old 30.06.2011, 20:14
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It's important to remember that not all cultures are as private about their salaries as the Swiss.

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In a group of 5 senior project managers (in switzerland, and I was the only foreigner at that time) we were able to get the average salary of our group without communicating our individual salaries
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