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16.08.2011, 13:11
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| | End of RAV My husband finish his RAV time (unemployment benefits are over). And we do not know what is next. Do you know something about? Will he get any more help? Can he apply for something? His RAV berater only speaks German and he can not get all this info from her...he is lost. He only got this 2 files attached but we do not understand what they are. 1st: Kein Anspruch auf Arbeitslosenentschddigung oder Arbeitslosenentschdaigung ausgeschiipft 2nd: Gesuch um Zustimmung zum Kursbesuch Thanks in advance | 
16.08.2011, 13:15
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What is next is you / he applies for social welfare payments. Get all relevent paperwork in order and ask at the Kreisbüro if you're not sure what to do. You want to get this process going as soon as possible as the wheels here can often turn slowly and rent day is always around the corner.
Good luck.
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16.08.2011, 13:23
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yes sozialamt now. after a spez fied time in RAV i think 12months or 18months, depends on the age of your hubby they stop paying.
sozialamt is now
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16.08.2011, 13:29
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And how much help this will be? 1000CHFa month? or 100CHF a month?
Any link with info? I do not find in the solothurn wabepage
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16.08.2011, 13:35
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | And how much help this will be? 1000CHFa month? or 100CHF a month?
Any link with info? I do not find in the solothurn wabepage | | | | | the will make a bill where is included all. the rent,insurence,food clothes all. you need to bring all papers u have.
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16.08.2011, 13:38
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | And how much help this will be? 1000CHFa month? or 100CHF a month?
Any link with info? I do not find in the solothurn wabepage | | | | | Ok, to make it simple: Lots of people are willing to help on this forum, but it isn't the RAV. You really want to get the paper work in order and take somebody with you who can communicate in German: The first scan tells you to go to your villages city hall - and talk to the social office there. The second scan is for some sort of training and it is impossible to give you any comments on it without more info. Really go to the RAV with somebody who can communicate with the advisor to find out what helpt they are able to offer - this is individual, so no stranger on the internet can give you a link to a website or something.
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16.08.2011, 13:52
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Sorry Seyon, I always thought you were a man.
Your husband needs to go to social security office in your Gemeinde as soon as possible. They demand a lot of paperwork, and will pay a minimum decided by the canton, minus some of your earnings, so he needs some of your paperwork too.
They will start payments only when the dossier of all your financial statements is completed.
If you own a property here you won't get any money until you have sold the house. He might have to sell his car.
They will pay his part of the rent, his health payments, plus about Fr 600 per month for food, travel etc.
In canton Vaud they had a scheme where you could work for the canton in odd jobs for 42 hours per week and receive about Fr 2'700 salary. So he might want to ask about these: there is a waiting list.
Your husband should apply to the RAV for a course in German if he cannot speak German. He still has to look for jobs with the RAV, but the Unemployment fund does not pay him anymore.
He can apply to his Gemeinde for a reduction in tax for the year 2011. (Steuererlass) http://www.so.ch/departemente/finanz...ssgruende.html
Good luck, I have been through all this, and it isn't easy!
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16.08.2011, 13:57
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | the will make a bill where is included all. the rent,insurence,food clothes all. you need to bring all papers u have.
u can live from that money but no jumps  | | | | | And you have to pay it back once you get a job or inheritance.
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16.08.2011, 14:02
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What happens to the B-permit renewal if the RAV benefits are over
and the RAV does not have to renew it anymore?
Specifically for Non-EU.
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16.08.2011, 14:05
| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | What happens to the B-permit renewal if the RAV benefits are over
and the RAV does not have to renew it anymore?
Specifically for Non-EU. | | | | | You get a free flight back home.
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16.08.2011, 14:06
| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | And you have to pay it back once you get a job or inheritance.
Tom | | | | | Not true. You have to pay it back when your situation has improved. If you get a crap job you can wait a bit longer for the payment slips.
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16.08.2011, 14:08
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You won't get help from the social until you have used up most of your assets, they leave you about Fr 5'000.
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16.08.2011, 14:08
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Quite true, a friend of mine is in that position, as the "Eigenmieten" value of his house exceeds the maximum income requirement for social help.
Tom
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16.08.2011, 14:10
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | Not true. You have to pay it back when your situation has improved. If you get a crap job you can wait a bit longer for the payment slips. | | | | | Yes, obviously I meant a job that would put you in a position to make payments.
But, the inheritance thing is not dependent on having a job.
Tom
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16.08.2011, 14:14
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | Sorry Seyon, I always thought you were a man.
Your husband needs to go to social security office in your Gemeinde as soon as possible. They demand a lot of paperwork, and will pay a minimum decided by the canton, minus some of your earnings, so he needs some of your paperwork too. | | | | | And, if you earn more than some amount (CHF 60k or so, depending where you live, rent, kids, etc.), your spouse won't get anything.
Tom
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16.08.2011, 14:15
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I know this is not really a sensitive thing to say but I'm a little confused as to why your husband doesn't speak enough German to understand the person at the RAV after one year of unemployment? Most of my unemployed friends have gladly taken up the RAV's offer of German courses, did he not do this?
As others have said, you are now the business of social services, who will establish your "Existenzminimum", as in, how much money you need to cover your absolute basic needs. If they deem your apartment too expensive, they will ask you to move - you get help with your moving costs.
The Kursbesuch thing is a form for applying to a course that will increase your husband's chances of finding work, such as language courses or IT skills courses. I guess the RAV will cover part if not all of the cost?
Is there any way you could find a job, even if it is only temporary or part-time? I can't imagine living off social services, you have to justify every single thing you buy and do and people know and are watching you all the time...  Best of luck in this situation and I hope you can find out of it as soon as possible.
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16.08.2011, 14:44
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | I know this is not really a sensitive thing to say but I'm a little confused as to why your husband doesn't speak enough German to understand the person at the RAV after one year of unemployment? Most of my unemployed friends have gladly taken up the RAV's offer of German courses, did he not do this?
As others have said, you are now the business of social services, who will establish your "Existenzminimum", as in, how much money you need to cover your absolute basic needs. If they deem your apartment too expensive, they will ask you to move - you get help with your moving costs.
The Kursbesuch thing is a form for applying to a course that will increase your husband's chances of finding work, such as language courses or IT skills courses. I guess the RAV will cover part if not all of the cost?
Is there any way you could find a job, even if it is only temporary or part-time? I can't imagine living off social services, you have to justify every single thing you buy and do and people know and are watching you all the time... Best of luck in this situation and I hope you can find out of it as soon as possible. | | | | | Yes, he got a 3 month German course. That is from 0 level to the beginning of A2. Really not enought to understand german at this level.
After reading your comments I think it could be maybe easier to life from my earning and do not get this social help?? Or maybe he can still get the German course?
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16.08.2011, 14:54
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | Sorry Seyon, I always thought you were a man. | | | | | Yes I am a woman,  . But I actually could be a man with a husband so be careful with your assumptions.
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16.08.2011, 14:55
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| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | You won't get help from the social until you have used up most of your assets, they leave you about Fr 5'000. | | | | | So if we have some saving he will not get a coin...
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16.08.2011, 14:57
| | Re: End of RAV | Quote: | |  | | | Yes I am a woman, . But I actually could be a man with a husband so be careful with your assumptions. | | | | | lol...amusing!
Make sure your husband gets German lessons, however they're paid for. I understand the RAV only pays till A2 or whatever but 18 months is enough to get further than that. He needs German to reliably find work here - what languages does he speak perfectly? You do not want to be living on sozialamt (or whatever it's called) - there are jobs out there for those willing to work them.
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