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Warning of UK recruitment agencies

Just thought I should warn you to stay clear of certain UK recruitment shops that work for the German and Swiss markets.

darwinrecruitment
computerfutures
progressiverecruitment


What is the problem with those? They don't respect data privacy and refuse to erase your profile when you ask them. In addition they are painfully unable to track any information you communicate to them. Which location you're interested in, your skills, whether you have a work permit. Any next contact you have to recite it all over from the beginning again.

While I haven't heard from computerfutures and progressiverecruitment for a while, the annoying darwinrecruitment seems to have it hard on me. They continue to spam their junk. It seems that mass-spamming is the preferable technique of UK agencies. One of them even told me, what's the big deal, don't like it just delete it someone will reply they always do.

In comparison, Germany agencies are usually capable of professional contact and do react to what you ask of them. They also have a very low opinion of UK shops due to the questionable business ethics of those.

I recommend avoiding giving them any of your documents. Will be extremely difficult to get out. Not worth the trouble. They don't have any valuable positions anyway.
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

I know two of these agencies and I would modify your post to make it clear you are posting your opinion not fact.

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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

Take your cv off jobserve etc then tell them to stop and they will. No point in telling them if they can just download your info again. I worked through progressive for many years and never had any issues
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

I found Progressive to be very professional and responsive. They found me many contracts in my day and actively worked on marketing me. I often recommend them. Perhaps Mark has left.

Computer Futures are just CV farmers. Awful amateurs in the IT recruiting arena despite their long standing presence.

You have a remedy, send a registered letter to their Data Protection Officer (you do not need to know a name or department, they have to figure out who has that role, as it is a legal requirement) and insist on removal. Remind them they have to keep a copy of your request.

Later on, 2 weeks later, write a second letter, enclose the nominal fee and demand to have a copy of any data they have about you on file.

If you continue to receive SPAM, send a registered cease and desist notice. The last company that ignored me settled for a 1500 out of court settlement in my favour after I issued a demand for damages through the small claims court. You can also contact the office of the Data Protection Commissionaire, but this takes time and they are not really interested in singular complaints.

Save all copies of correspondence including any SPAM, for later proof.

Write to the CEO of each company and explain your grievance. They will want to know.
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

It would be convenient also if you have de activated your account with them for instance, to check again because it has happened to me that I had a duplicate account and hence kept receiving emails for job offers even after I had already signed a contract through the same head hunter
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Progressive were great when I was unemployed. Everything they called me about was relevant and I've not heard from them since I told them I had found something.
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It would be convenient also if you have de activated your account with them for instance, to check again because it has happened to me that I had a duplicate account and hence kept receiving emails for job offers even after I had already signed a contract through the same head hunter
I've never had any account with them. They just grabbed by CV from monster.

I think I will now only publish password-protected PDFs so that it is impossible for them to extract text from it or introduce any modifications.
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

If you look at www.contractorsuk.com, you'll see that the S3 group of companies (Progressive, Futures etc.) are not well loved. Mind you, few agencies are.

Personally, I will not work through an S3 agency - as a freelancer. They're highly unlikely to be the only one advertising a particular job, so you don't lose out. They did surprise me once. They called me for a reference on an ex-team member, and didn't try to sell me someone else.
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I've never had any account with them. They just grabbed by CV from monster.

I think I will now only publish password-protected PDFs so that it is impossible for them to extract text from it or introduce any modifications.

and there you go, if your cv is still on monster then they will keep downloading it, its really not that hard to understand now is it??
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

As a matter of interest, has anyone come across Red Commerce in London?
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

Both Darwin and Progressive are on my blacklists as both contractor and recruiting manager. So are many others to be fair and YMMV with most agencies.
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I've never had any account with them. They just grabbed by CV from monster.

I think I will now only publish password-protected PDFs so that it is impossible for them to extract text from it or introduce any modifications.
Are you still looking then? otherwise de activate your monster account, i only activate it when I am looking for something
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Re: Warning of UK recruitment agencies

op, all your posts so far have been bitching about agencies and you inability to find a job, so what gives?
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and there you go, if your cv is still on monster then they will keep downloading it, its really not that hard to understand now is it??
What if I write there that the recruiters are not allowed?

What if I only publish a summary inviting everyone interested in a full version to get in touch with me? Then I can choose to whom give my CV and to whom not.

What do you think?
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If you look at www.contractorsuk.com
The link is broken.
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What if I write there that the recruiters are not allowed?

What if I only publish a summary inviting everyone interested in a full version to get in touch with me? Then I can choose to whom give my CV and to whom not.

What do you think?
are you for real?

your cv is on monster, they type in there requirements and you come back as a hit, they have now paid to d/l your info (as your not on there system), if your cv says so little then no one will want to know and not only will agencies not contact you, no one will.

if you don't want agencies contacting you then take your cv off job sites and apply for jobs directly.

for a programmer you're not too sharp
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The link is broken.
I think he misspelled "Contractors Suck".
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for a programmer you're not too sharp
That's a bit harsh. After all does he achieve to be an equally big waste of time for the recruitment agencies as vice versa.
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As a matter of interest, has anyone come across Red Commerce in London?
YES... I would not use them for any recruitment activities as they do not have a swiss based office and require a third party contract from a locally based swiss company.
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are you for real?

your cv is on monster, they type in there requirements and you come back as a hit, they have now paid to d/l your info (as your not on there system), if your cv says so little then no one will want to know and not only will agencies not contact you, no one will.

if you don't want agencies contacting you then take your cv off job sites and apply for jobs directly.
I don't care who paid for what but I put there my CV to be seen directly by companies, not by recruiters. What is the problem if I state there promptly the recruiters should shop elsewhere but only direct employers are welcome?


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For a European your bedside manners can use some polishing.
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