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i usually send it with a sample portfolio. will that be enough?

what would you suggest? maybe i could get some ideas.
Make the CV more of a finished product you might produce for a client, be super creative & you will be noticed. It need to say 'wow' , have fun it will work.
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I supply a simple info CV cover sheet then about ten pages of work samples as a PDF. I know you have your work online but then you expect a prospective employer to faff about looking for your online portfolio. Create a slick PDF portfolio so they can instantly see your work

I'm not keen on the stars either, looks too much like trip advisor etc. I agree with others don't rate yourself, just list the apps you are proficient in, in order of most proficient etc

I recently received many CVs for a freelance roll and the text heavy cvs were ignored. The instant straight to the money design samples CVs definitely had more impact. Made my life easier

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thank you! this definitely helps! what else should i do?
i'm very much open for any suggestions that may increase my chances. i just got to have to start a new career! i feel like i've done what i'm supposed to do here.
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Make the CV more of a finished product you might produce for a client, be super creative & you will be noticed. It need to say 'wow' , have fun it will work.
thanks! i really need all the advice and encouragement you can give. as i'm willing to work, contribute and integrate but i just need to find a job.
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thank you! this definitely helps! what else should i do?
i'm very much open for any suggestions that may increase my chances. i just got to have to start a new career! i feel like i've done what i'm supposed to do here.
Make the CV job specific for the actual company you are applying for, be an expert in exactly what they are looking for, then you will be the no 1 candidate. If you can make the design fit with their corporate look, you will already have the job in your mind, that will hopefully transfer to them.
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Make the CV job specific for the actual company you are applying for, be an expert in exactly what they are looking for, then you will be the no 1 candidate. If you can make the design fit with their corporate look, you will already have the job in your mind, that will hopefully transfer to them.
actually the problem i'm facing at the moment is that, i couldn't find a design company in switzerland that has an opening. or a contact.
i've also been applying (a LOT actually) with NGOs in geneva, still no luck. hence, the very wordy CV.
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Old 28.08.2011, 00:42
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actually the problem i'm facing at the moment is that, i couldn't find a design company in switzerland that has an opening. or a contact.
i've also been applying (a LOT actually) with NGOs in geneva, still no luck. hence, the very wordy CV.
Unfortunately there are very few full time jobs, or even part time jobs. It's very much project to project booked at the last minute. Many kids of rich parents will work for nothing just to 'get in' all they achieve is getting more non paying jobs.

I was asked to do a first job for a new client last month, I suggested I would charge for the first but do the next one free, never heard another word as expected! On another project last week, I was the only person being paid, everybody else worked for free! I actually got a full commercial rate for an industrial job, I object to working free, so become less flexible when asked.

Geneva is actually easier to work as a foreigner than Zurich, unfortunately I live in ZH however half my work is in Geneva.
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I supply a simple info CV cover sheet then about ten pages of work samples as a PDF. I know you have your work online but then you expect a prospective employer to faff about looking for your online portfolio. Create a slick PDF portfolio so they can instantly see your work

I'm not keen on the stars either, looks too much like trip advisor etc. I agree with others don't rate yourself, just list the apps you are proficient in, in order of most proficient etc

I recently received many CVs for a freelance roll and the text heavy cvs were ignored. The instant straight to the money design samples CVs definitely had more impact. Made my life easier

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thanks! i'll do just that. i'll start conceptualizing for my CV as if it's a brochure for a big client. this tip is surely worth a shot!
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Unfortunately there are very few full time jobs, or even part time jobs. It's very much project to project booked at the last minute. Many kids of rich parents will work for nothing just to 'get in' all they achieve is getting more non paying jobs.

I was asked to do a first job for a new client last month, I suggested I would charge for the first but do the next one free, never heard another word as expected! On another project last week, I was the only person being paid, everybody else worked for free! I actually got a full commercial rate for an industrial job, I object to working free, so become less flexible when asked.

Geneva is actually easier to work as a foreigner than Zurich, unfortunately I live in ZH however half my work is in Geneva.
i believe you told me about this in another thread. but that's kinda sad. if you don't have trained and experienced professionals, the standards would drop. no?

hey fatmanfilms! this is what happens if one of those rich kids do a design for free: hahahaha!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...se-poster.html

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That's crazy! Are these kids trained (i.e. went to the design college in Zürich)? I'm a graphic designer in Zürich and have also sent out CVs and have gotten very low response. I've always figured it's my lack of decent German or Swiss German, which is fair enough. But I've been curious if anything else is going on. Luckily I am getting projects from other sources.
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That's crazy! Are these kids trained (i.e. went to the design college in Zürich)? I'm a graphic designer in Zürich and have also sent out CVs and have gotten very low response. I've always figured it's my lack of decent German or Swiss German, which is fair enough. But I've been curious if anything else is going on. Luckily I am getting projects from other sources.
hi there! i want to ask, how's life in switzerland for a graphic designer? is it really as they say? because i'm pretty sure where there's a need to advertise, to print and where there are posters and the like there's a need for good well-trained graphic designers.

i must admit, that i'm disheartened at times when i look for graphic design jobs in switzerland... still, i truly believe that there's something out there.
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Re: Help w/ Graphic Designer's CV

Is there anyone out there who could please, please help me write/improve my CV?!? i'm fresh out of ideas on how to write my CV and make it better. i've exhausted all my friends and people i know to help me out with my CV. so if there's anyone, it would really be nice.

at the moment, i'm taking all the advice i got here and i'm making a PDF portfolio to go with it.
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Old 28.08.2011, 22:56
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Is there anyone out there who could please, please help me write/improve my CV?!? i'm fresh out of ideas on how to write my CV and make it better. i've exhausted all my friends and people i know to help me out with my CV. so if there's anyone, it would really be nice.

at the moment, i'm taking all the advice i got here and i'm making a PDF portfolio to go with it.
Don't think of it as a CV - my CV is just one side of A4 with similar information as you have put but laid out differently. You just need to state the facts, don't think they need to read all about your experience - I think the portfolio/work examples should do the talking (in fact it does do the talking) - I dont give a jot about experience necessarily if the work examples are good and they can back it up in person
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Don't think of it as a CV - my CV is just one side of A4 with similar information as you have put but laid out differently. You just need to state the facts, don't think they need to read all about your experience - I think the portfolio/work examples should do the talking (in fact it does do the talking) - I dont give a jot about experience necessarily if the work examples are good and they can back it up in person
thanks nicky! you're absolutely right! thanks! i'll do just that.
dang! why didn't i thought of that!?!
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thanks!
though for the languages, will i need to rate it in some way?
Languages are rated by official tests. Normally they are A1 A2 / B1 B2 / C1 C2. You'll need to get your non native language certificates to really mean anything.

Personally for a graphic designer CV I like the graphics. But again, you'll need certificates to back up your stars so best drop the stars. Just list what you know well. If it's a 2.5 star thing drop it.

And since other people have mentioned it, and I mentioned it in the other thread, there are very few full time graphic designer jobs out there. When I was unemployed most of the people who were unemployed with me were graphic designers.

On top of that not only will "rich kids" or any kid with a computer really do the job for little money, there are so many freelancers out there that do good work for little money. I recently had a logo done for US$100 online. Never even met the girl. She live in the US some where.

I don't want to put on a damper on your dream. But you have to be prepared for the hurdles to be able to overcome them.

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I recently had a logo done for US$100 online. Never even met the girl. She live in the US some where.
yeah, i do projects online with these people too.
but thanks! we'll see what would happen next. i sincerely believe that there's something out there, i just need to find it.
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Don't think of it as a CV - my CV is just one side of A4 with similar information as you have put but laid out differently. You just need to state the facts, don't think they need to read all about your experience - I think the portfolio/work examples should do the talking (in fact it does do the talking) - I dont give a jot about experience necessarily if the work examples are good and they can back it up in person
Good point. I wonder if it's even worth designers having a traditional CV for corporate HR departments anymore. Chocking them full of keywords from the ad is supposed to get you past the first screening, but everyone must know that game by now. How can this process possibly be worth anything?

It sounds like sending a CV that really shows off your design skills is the way to go, even if a few HR departments eliminate it for not following the rules.
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It sounds like sending a CV that really shows off your design skills is the way to go, even if a few HR departments eliminate it for not following the rules.
actually, that's one of my biggest concerns! is that they eliminate your CV just because it doesn't fit the "regular CV standard." especially when you apply online.
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Good point. I wonder if it's even worth designers having a traditional CV for corporate HR departments anymore.

It sounds like sending a CV that really shows off your design skills is the way to go, even if a few HR departments eliminate it for not following the rules.
5 years ago the RAV paid a course for me to make a Swiss Style CV, my latest RAV counsellor asked WTF that was & did I even bother sending it to anyone!

She asked me to make a totally Graphic one like my website. I already had such a flyer that I had been using........
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It sounds like sending a CV that really shows off your design skills is the way to go, even if a few HR departments eliminate it for not following the rules.
But a design agency wont necessarily have a HR department - or at last a HR department like most companies.

If anyone advertises for a designer then its likely the creative director or marketing director/manager and the CV's would go to him/her not the HR department - and he/she will expect something wow creative or at least samples of work presented cleverly/nicely

to add to the above - I work in-house but not for a design agency. I responded to the advert with my portfolio/CV pdf directly to the name on the ad via email and my CV never went through HR as my boss was looking for a different kind of employee - I really feel that HR departments are not qualified to assess CV's from designers and if a marketing person within a company decides they need a graphic designer in house then your CV would be sent directly to that person

it's a different kettle of fish to normal CV's with lots of technical info and experience - those CV's for those people are their selling tools - for us it's the portfolio that sells us
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Re: Help w/ Graphic Designer's CV

i hear you guys loud and clear! and will be working on my CV like you said.
any limits though, in terms of file size, number of pages and format?

and any advice on what kind of design should i include? i have a variety of works from illustration, graphic design, layout, publication to TVC.


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She asked me to make a totally Graphic one like my website. I already had such a flyer that I had been using........
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But a design agency wont necessarily have a HR department - or at last a HR department like most companies.

If anyone advertises for a designer then its likely the creative director or marketing director/manager and the CV's would go to him/her not the HR department - and he/she will expect something wow creative or at least samples of work presented cleverly/nicely

to add to the above - I work in-house but not for a design agency. I responded to the advert with my portfolio/CV pdf directly to the name on the ad via email and my CV never went through HR as my boss was looking for a different kind of employee - I really feel that HR departments are not qualified to assess CV's from designers and if a marketing person within a company decides they need a graphic designer in house then your CV would be sent directly to that person

it's a different kettle of fish to normal CV's with lots of technical info and experience - those CV's for those people are their selling tools - for us it's the portfolio that sells us
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