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Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangement

Dear all,

Its a long story but in short I just wonder if there is any legal ground of my claims:

My boss fired me and refused to answer my call for one whole week. I tried to call her again but she left a message saying that she is on 1 months leave till Oct.

My salary in last month is still not fully paid (only paid by half), I just wonder how long can a company hold the salary of their employee? In my country its a 2 months period. After this the company can be sued for not paying their employee.

My boss has found another more experienced new employee which makes me, the newest recruit, a little bit too redundant. Somehow may be it is not a strong enough ground for her to fry me, she accuse me of making multiple mistakes which harm the company so she has to let me go. It is amazing cause I received praise from her and my seniors openly before. I am not saying that I must be so good that I can't be fired. Yet to be accused of making serious mistakes which I was previously unaware of, it is totally another matter.

I wonder may be in Switzerland a company need strong ground to fire someone so she has to ruthlessly made up an outrageous excuse? Or she is being a paranoid who tries to be extremely careful? Is it common?

I reflected so hard to think about what I had done so wrong but when I wrote to the other staff they all replied and said I am new but good. I know I may not be perfect but as least I think I am not seriously bad as to be fired without previous warning for some "invisible" multiple wrong doing.

Thanks for reading and sharing your opinion.


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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

You can go to the employment court. They give free advice, and even a case against your employer is free of charge, http://tel.local.ch/en/d/Zuerich/800...re=8004+Zurich


You should also go to the RAV as soon as possible. You must start looking for the next job immediately,
http://tel.local.ch/en/q/Zurich/RAV.html?rid=bM6e You need to find out which one is yours (Not always the nearest one!)
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Thanks for your invaluable input!

I will go to take a look tomorrow asap!
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Salary owed really depends on your contract and how long you were there. If you were in your probation period, you can get a week's notice with one week salary. If in the first year, one month's notice, 2nd to 5th year, two month's notice. (according to Swiss OR)
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Dear all,

Its a long story but in short I just wonder if there is any legal ground of my claims:

My boss fired me and refused to answer my call for one whole week. I tried to call her again but she left a message saying that she is on 1 months leave till Oct.

My salary in last month is still not fully paid (only paid by half), I just wonder how long can a company hold the salary of their employee? In my country its a 2 months period. After this the company can be sued for not paying their employee.

My boss has found another more experienced new employee which makes me, the newest recruit, a little bit too redundant. Somehow may be it is not a strong enough ground for her to fry me, she accuse me of making multiple mistakes which harm the company so she has to let me go. It is amazing cause I received praise from her and my seniors openly before. I am not saying that I must be so good that I can't be fired. Yet to be accused of making serious mistakes which I was previously unaware of, it is totally another matter.

I wonder may be in Switzerland a company need strong ground to fire someone so she has to ruthlessly made up an outrageous excuse? Or she is being a paranoid who tries to be extremely careful? Is it common?

I reflected so hard to think about what I had done so wrong but when I wrote to the other staff they all replied and said I am new but good. I know I may not be perfect but as least I think I am not seriously bad as to be fired without previous warning for some "invisible" multiple wrong doing.

Thanks for reading and sharing your opinion.


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No not at all! I have being fired ,for to be on time at least 4 times in one month
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Thanks all.

My salary for the month before I was fired is also yet to be paid. I worked for the whole month and only paid about 1/3.

I still have my contract with me but the terms are vague. I will seek legal advice tomorrow.

For being punctual and they fired you? I think I am being fired for being meek and mild. I just wonder, they can fired me easily by saying I am not suitable. So why do they have to be nasty and ugly by making things up?
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Thanks all.

My salary for the month before I was fired is also yet to be paid. I worked for the whole month and only paid about 1/3.

I still have my contract with me but the terms are vague. I will seek legal advice tomorrow.

For being punctual and they fired you? I think I am being fired for being meek and mild. I just wonder, they can fired me easily by saying I am not suitable. So why do they have to be nasty and ugly by making things up?
Yaep that what I mean Bummer eh
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

The reason why they make stuff up is propbably because they're cowards and bullies. Or, as in my case, because they were too stupid to understand that not everyone is a twisty minded as them.

Get some legal advice. A basic principle is that if you've done the work, you're entitled to the money. I believe slavery was abolished quite some time ago.
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

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What had happened to you?

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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Just curious why you aren't working this out with HR?
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Can you speak to ANYONE in the company?
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Old 06.09.2011, 09:40
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No not at all! I have being fired ,for to be on time at least 4 times in one month
4 times in a month? no wonder you got fired

OP, I am sorry for the loss of your job. Thats a cowardly way of dealing with firing an employee.

You deserve much more than that. I know this is pretty aggressive but I'll pop by the office and insist that you speak to her. I am not buying that going on holiday crap. Keep calm, and ask for whats due of your salary. At this point, no use asking for the job back. Just whats due to you.

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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Dear all,

Thanks for reading. This is a very small company. There is only one boss (the owner) and less than 10 staffs. She is the HR.

Indeed she is really not in the office as I know a client who visited the office and was told that she is on long vacation. She is the boss who can easily take leaves. Indeed she only comes to the office a few hours for a few days per week.

This make the whole accusation of my wrong doing even more ridiculous as she is usually not in the office and the other employees all said I am "tip top".

No one knows about contract details. Everyone is scared of her. They only talk behind her. You know what. I thought this kind of tyranny would only happened elsewhere or in bigger firm. I didn't expect a normal job with little salary can be that complicated.

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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Working for small companies is a very tricky business. I have a friend here who was hired as an IT sytesms administrator for a small firm (6-7 employees). She had made it very clear that her French was not good at all. In spite of that she was hired to work 50%. In less than 6 months the person who had hired her told her to go, ostensibly because her IT knowledge was not up to the mark. She was told that shes kept asking questions to other colleague, when she would only ask once in way, the meaning of a pop up in French.

She at least got a month and half's salary. The moral of the story is, working for small companies can be quite dicey and how your work situation is going to be depends totally on the boss's or owner's personality.
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

She does not need a special reason to fire you, but you are of course entitled to your salary as per the contract.
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Can you speak to ANYONE in the company?
I doubt here it will be any good to discuss with anyone.
They don't seem very reasonable (as per the OP information).


I think the only advice is legal assistance, as said before.

Sad but true!
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Re: Boss fired me & refused to answer my call. No one can tell me abt leave arrangeme

Hi all,

Yes I have contact the labour court and they are willing to help. If anyone has similar problem, please contact the local labour court for help immediately. You should contact the court that your company belongs to, not the one that you live in.

I will post my result after the next step of action. Thanks!
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She does not need a special reason to fire you, but you are of course entitled to your salary as per the contract.
Since when do you not need a reason?
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Since when do you not need a reason?
Since you work in Switzerland, and even more so durign the probationary period.
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