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Old 15.09.2011, 16:01
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At their convenience? Mate, that's at least CHF 50/hour, extra on weekends and unsocial hours, and call-outs paid from the minute you leave your place (which is not going to be in canton Zug at that salary). Seriously, you'd be better off applying at McDonalds - OK pay, you roughly know when you have to work, and paid overtime.
So basically you mean that a full time driver should earn 100.000 chf per year, as there is 2000 hours per work year.

Let me know if you find such a job as I would like to apply myself. My 25+ years in engineering is not bringing so much more..........some....but not significantly much more, so why struggle with corporate "challenges" if all I should do is drive all day long.
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Re: Salary comparison

A bit of background: I've been driving for this guy as an executive chauffeur and my wife is housekeeping for the same family already. She would be doing housekeeping Mon-Fri in CH as well, and she was offered 25CHF/hr, Mon-Fri 6hrs daily.

So what I'm trying to say is that we already have a relationship built (ca.3 years)

I'm guessing that he is trying to play us on the salary, or even he doesn't have a clue about Swiss salaries...
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:05
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I'm guessing close to 10hrs 6-7 days a week, on and off.

Now this is my second problem: I got no problems working insane hours, as long as I get paid for it... I know that the Swiss laws do not allow more than 4-5hrs overtime a week... : So how on Earth could he put it on my payroll legally???
There's also specific limits for drivers. The maximum weekly limit is 50 hours, and overtime is 25% extra or time off in lieu... so to answer your last question: I don't think he's intending to.
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A bit of background: I've been driving for this guy as an executive chauffeur and my wife is housekeeping for the same family already. She would be doing housekeeping Mon-Fri in CH as well, and she was offered 25CHF/hr, Mon-Fri 6hrs daily.

So what I'm trying to say is that we already have a relationship built (ca.3 years)

I'm guessing that he is trying to play us on the salary, or even he doesn't have a clue about Swiss salaries...
Hence , the introduction post that was requested.....
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Re: Salary comparison

well 25h *40*4= 4k a month. seems legit to me to be a receptionist (that is what an office manager is really in the companies I worked for no offense)
Id ask for 30 an hour. (if it is fulltime)
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:09
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So basically you mean that a full time driver should earn 100.000 chf per year, as there is 2000 hours per work year.

Let me know if you find such a job as I would like to apply myself. My 25+ years in engineering is not bringing so much more..........some....but not significantly much more, so why struggle with corporate "challenges" if all I should do is drive all day long.
TBH I was thinking more of a "contract" sort of relationship, so it's more like 1800 hrs / year allowing for holidays. But yes, good handymen get CHF 50 or more per hour, no worries. If he can negotiate an annual salary, that's different.
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Re: Salary comparison

Guys, true: I'm not an engineer, nor an IT genius, just an average Joe. Yes, apart from driving it would mean running around to the post office, taking care of the copying machine etc... I just would like to find out how much my efforts and sweat would worth in Switzerland. And how on Earth could/would he put a high number of overtime on a payroll...
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:24
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I just would like to find out how much my efforts and sweat would worth in Switzerland. .
It's a though question as we all measure it differently.

The only way to do it properly is :

a) Knowing your lifestyle and Living Needs; what's you acceptable minimum .
b) Calculating the expenses you'll be having
c) Finding someone who works in the area an can give you the "normal" rate for this kind of work ( I don't know if anyone here actually does it)


I'm having such a mod day.... taht sucks
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Old 15.09.2011, 16:51
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Re: Salary comparison

Snoope .. seen this thread??

http://www.englishforum.ch/jobs-offe...-telecoms.html

It might get you a comparable salary/job conditions?
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And how on Earth could/would he put a high number of overtime on a payroll...
Are you sure he's putting you on payroll? Sounds like paying under the table if you ask me. Be certain he is paying your social charges, mandatory pension plan, preferably at least part of your mandatory health insurance, etc...

And as others said, starting salary for a unexperienced cleaner is 25 chf/hr.
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Old 16.09.2011, 10:44
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Are you sure he's putting you on payroll? Sounds like paying under the table if you ask me. Be certain he is paying your social charges, mandatory pension plan, preferably at least part of your mandatory health insurance, etc...

And as others said, starting salary for a unexperienced cleaner is 25 chf/hr.
Or the cash desk person in the supermarket.....
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Old 16.09.2011, 10:48
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Guys, true: I'm not an engineer, nor an IT genius, just an average Joe. Yes, apart from driving it would mean running around to the post office, taking care of the copying machine etc... I just would like to find out how much my efforts and sweat would worth in Switzerland. And how on Earth could/would he put a high number of overtime on a payroll...
My suggestion - don't go for hourly pay rate but get a legit contract with a monthly salary based on anticipated number of hours worked per month. Your employer needs to register you with the Social Security, set up a pension plan, provide accident insurance (especially if you're going to be driving). Any "overtime" will either have to be paid out separately at +25% or compensated for with free time. That's the legal way to do it. Anything else will get you and him into trouble, and trouble is expensive!

Also, your wife will be working approx. 30 hrs per week for this family, so the same applies to her.
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Re: Salary comparison

I agree with the others... very low pay..
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Re: Salary comparison

Just turned down a Junior Controller position in Zug for 80,000 CHF per annum. Am I crazy or will I definitely get more as a CPA in Zug?
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Re: Salary comparison

Depends on your experience and how many years post-qualified you are!
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over 5 years experience in accountancy practices while training and only qualified last year!
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Re: Salary comparison

Hi,
A friend of mine works in a recruitment agency in Switzerland for the last 4 years - they did a survey and came up with this:
total package with the following experience:
0-2 years min 75k ave 87k max >110k
2-5 years min 81k ave 103k max >110k
>5 years min 100K ave >110k max >110k

However, what I have found is that if it is your first job in Switzerland the salary will always be slightly lower as there are a number of people going for the same job. Plus, if you only have English then the salary is slightly lower.

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