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I have been working and living in Switzerland for the past 4 years and during all that time I have been contributing to the unemployment fund each and every month.
I work for a big private company at Basel airport and the company is going throug.difficulties now. So they want to retrenchment some people, the problem is that I was told should I get entrenched I can't claim unemployment cos technically I don't work in Switzerland. I airport is part French, part Swiss, it is basically no man's land. So should anyone who is not from EURO get entrenched, they can't claim.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.


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Old 22.09.2011, 16:35
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Hello

I have been working and living in Switzerland for the past 4 years and during all that time I have been contributing to the unemployment fund each and every month.
I work for a big private company at Basel airport and the company is going throug.difficulties now. So they want to retrenchment some people, the problem is that I was told should I get entrenched I can't claim unemployment cos technically I don't work in Switzerland. I airport is part French, part Swiss, it is basically no man's land. So should anyone who is not from EURO get entrenched, they can't claim.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.


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1. Join the union
2. get proper advice

Seriously: the airport is not "no man's land". Your employer is either domiciled in Switzerland or in France. You can also check with AHV / sécurité sociale whether social charges have been paid as due.

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Old 22.09.2011, 16:43
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Re: unemployment fund

If you're paying your taxes and ALV to Basel then you should be entitled to Swiss unemployment benefits.

From your user name I can guess which company you work for and they are a Swiss company located in the Swiss sector.
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Old 22.09.2011, 16:48
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Re: unemployment fund

Ah.

On reading your post again, I see that your issue might be that you are not EU/Swiss.

There are a few threads on EF covering unemployment benefits for non-EU B-Permit holders. I fear the news might not be good
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Old 22.09.2011, 17:17
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Re: unemployment fund

You can check directly with the regional employment centre (RAV).

Their email is rav.awa@bs.ch
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Old 22.09.2011, 17:23
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Hello

I have been working and living in Switzerland for the past 4 years and during all that time I have been contributing to the unemployment fund each and every month.
I work for a big private company at Basel airport and the company is going throug.difficulties now. So they want to retrenchment some people, the problem is that I was told should I get entrenched I can't claim unemployment cos technically I don't work in Switzerland. I airport is part French, part Swiss, it is basically no man's land. So should anyone who is not from EURO get entrenched, they can't claim.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.


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Do you have a Swiss contract? Surely you've been employed in one country or the other - and, if you've been paying to that country's unemployment program, then you should be able to draw from it (as long as you meet the requirements for time, which in Switzerland you would).

Do you have a Swiss residence / work permit? That would really clear up which country you've been working in.
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Re: unemployment fund

OK, I am from South Africa and I am an Aircraft Technician for Jet Aviation. I have a B permit for Switzerland, But I don't have a work permit as they say its not required for the Airport(my B permit is actually written not allowed to work in Switzerland, I am only allowed to work at the Airport and only for Jet Aviation).

I pay all my taxes into Switzerland.
I don't have a problem with leaving the EU if I don't have a job, But I don't see why I should pay for something I am never gonna benefit from.

I pay for all this

1 AHV contribution
2 UI contribution
3 Non-industrial accident
4 Sick pay insurance
5 Withholding tax
6 Health insurance
7 Pension plan

The AHV says since I don't have a work permit, I can't claim.
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Old 22.09.2011, 19:32
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Re: unemployment fund

The AHV is contribution to your state pension fund, which you can claim when you retire, or leave Switzerland/EU. (Anhänger&HintengebliebenVersicherung)

The "Pension Plan" might be contributions to your company pension.

The UI might be Unemployment Insurance (?) which in German is ALV (ArbeitsLosVersicherung)

As already stated you should contact the RAV RegionalArbeitsVermittlung in Basel. If you were living in the EU you could claim money.

Definitely join UNIA the union, they are very good, http://nordwestschweiz.unia.ch/
http://www.unia.ch/Mitglied-werden.7...l?&L=3&id=5065
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Re: unemployment fund

Generally speaking even as a non-EU/EEA/CH national, you should be entitled to one year's unemployment assistance at about 70% of your old salary.

The only issue might be the exact status of your permit. There is a B-permit issued in 2 blocks of 2 years meaning it can expire after four years.

The HR of your company should be able to refer you to one or more of the following:

RAV in Basel Land/City
Local Union (join now while you still meet the criteria)
Local foreigner assistance service in Basel (look on www.bs.ch)

Are you resident/registered in BS or BL?

At the risk of seeming patronizing, given your situation as you describe it, it's probably time to start being quite precise and exact about things. Once you are exposed to the Swiss bureacracy and require their assistance/money, pedanticity helps. http://www.awa.bs.ch/rechtsauskunftarbeitslose
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Re: unemployment fund

Thank you everyone for all the help, I will try your suggestions.
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Re: unemployment fund

Hope everything works out for you Mahladu. With any luck you won't need the advice.
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OK, I am from South Africa and I am an Aircraft Technician for Jet Aviation. I have a B permit for Switzerland, But I don't have a work permit as they say its not required for the Airport(my B permit is actually written not allowed to work in Switzerland, I am only allowed to work at the Airport and only for Jet Aviation).
Ok so this does not sound right. If you have come up here due to your employment, your right to reside is guaranteed by your right to work (and hence support yourself). So maybe you want to crosscheck what your permit actually says - and maybe post it here for reference. Maybe it says that you cannot work for another employer but that is <> from not allowed to work at all.

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The AHV says since I don't have a work permit, I can't claim.
You do have a work permit, and if it runs out, the AHV becomes your de facto employer and your permit is renewed until your right to unemployment extinguishes.
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