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The problem is I do not have time to do a PGCE. Taking 3 months out to do a CELTA is already enough as I have a family and we need the money!

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I have always wanted to teach, especially primary level
Erm, with all respect, you are making a grave mistake if you think you can roll into a primary school and teach a full curriculum to a whole class with just a three month TEFL certificate under your belt.

To be honest, I doubt any reputable primary school would even employ you as a class teacher without a BA in Education or a Post Graduate Certificate.

I don't want to urinate on your bonfire, but primary teaching just doesn't work like that.

Good luck, anyway. You'll need it!
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Alexwolves, do you really honestly belive a teacher can be trained in 3 months, you really belittle the profession with this attitude and it shows how desperate you really are.

There are plenty of qualifed teachers out there, you stand no chance

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Alexwolves, do you really honestly belive a teacher can be trained in 3 months, you really belittle the profession with this attitude and it shows how desperate you really are.

There are plenty of qualifed teachers out there, you stand no chance
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I wouldn't want to be a student in your class!
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The problem is I do not have time to do a PGCE. Taking 3 months out to do a CELTA is already enough as I have a family and we need the money!

My degree is in French and Tourism, but there are no need for French teachers in Vaud.

I have always wanted to teach, especially primary level and I have a small window of time next year...this is why I am going for it.

Thanks everyone for their responses, they are really helpful.

Alex
Unfortunately, DB is right in as much you will need a B Ed or equivalent to teach in a primary (or any other) school. In fact, the reverse is also true - I have a B Ed but had to undertake the TEFL course in order to be able to teach English.

Given your family circumstances, after you have completed the CELTA course, why not look into teaching English, particularly at business level. Or business French to non-French speakers. However, in order to achieve that you would need to take a course in teaching business language after CELTA, but you could find an intensive one, perhaps on-line.

I have recently undertaken some work for a relocation company, where I was required specifically to brief my clients (Swiss, relocating to London for work) on English business and social eqituette. That has give me the idea of offering a combination of English language tuition with the aforementioned, targeting German/Swiss/French companies for business clients. My situation is slightly different as I would also host them ... but I am just throwing some ideas out there!

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Alexwolves, do you really honestly belive a teacher can be trained in 3 months, you really belittle the profession with this attitude and it shows how desperate you really are.

There are plenty of qualifed teachers out there, you stand no chance

Funny. Thanks!
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Erm, with all respect, you are making a grave mistake if you think you can roll into a primary school and teach a full curriculum to a whole class with just a three month TEFL certificate under your belt.

To be honest, I doubt any reputable primary school would even employ you as a class teacher without a BA in Education or a Post Graduate Certificate.

I don't want to urinate on your bonfire, but primary teaching just doesn't work like that.

Good luck, anyway. You'll need it!

My final goal is to teach primary school children. I understand this will not be as easy as doing a 3 month course.

I don't underestimate how difficult it will be, and I know I will have to start on my own and get what experience I can if I qualify. Then take it from there.

Also I said I would probably do a CELTA not a TEFL.

Thanks for your advice though.

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Re: CELTA (YL) or TEFL (TEFYL) ?

There is one CELTA course which starts in 7th November this year, lasts only one month and it ends 2nd December. I will take this one and I've searched a lot online to know if this is the best, and it really is.
Lets do it together!
P.S.: take a look at this site for more info =>

https://www.teachers.cambridgeesol.org/ts/

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Et bien malheureusement, ce ne se sera pas possible...
Les conditions d'admission sont en train de se durcir et le système est en pleine restructuration afin de créer une harmonisation entre les cantons (HARMOS)...
Ainsi, si tu souhaites être enseignant, tu as une seule possibilité qui s'offre à toi : tu dois t'inscrire à la HEP (Vaud, Fribourg, Valais ) ou à l'Université de Genève et refaire entièrement une formation, ce qui te prendra entre 3 et 4 ans...
En ce moment il y a d'ailleurs de nombreux étudiants suisses ayant une licence universitaire et des années de remplacements dans les écoles qui reprennent cette formation du début... et oui...

Will translate later. Not sure about private schools though. I am always surprised that people are prepared to pay lots of money for private schools in the UK and F, for teachers who are often poorly qualified.
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