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EU B permit- moving out for short term to another EU country

Hi,

I have been hired by Global consultancy company as local permanent employee in Switzerland, after a year i am on bench now and as there are no project openings in Switzerland at the moment, my company wants me to go to Germany to work for short time. I am from EU so this would not be problem but i am skeptical about this move of my company. Has anyone on this forum worked abroad while being employed in Switzeland? please share you experience.


1. How long can i be outside Switzerland on B permit?
2. Am i entitled for Swiss salary during this short term?
3. what other expenses can be claimed ? housing, daily expenses?
4. How this would impact on my tax and retirement savings?
5. Can company transfer me to Germany and terminate my permanent contact in Switzerland without my consent?
6. Can i refuse to accept this project and ask them to find me something in Switzerland?

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Old 18.10.2011, 16:12
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Hi,

I have been hired by Global consultancy company as local permanent employee in Switzerland, after a year i am on bench now and as there are no project openings in Switzerland at the moment, my company wants me to go to Germany to work for short time. I am from EU so this would not be problem but i am skeptical about this move of my company. Has anyone on this forum worked abroad while being employed in Switzeland? please share you experience.


1. How long can i be outside Switzerland on B permit?
2. Am i entitled for Swiss salary during this short term?
3. what other expenses can be claimed ? housing, daily expenses?
4. How this would impact on my tax and retirement savings?
5. Can company transfer me to Germany and terminate my permanent contact in Switzerland without my consent?
6. Can i refuse to accept this project and ask them to find me something in Switzerland?

Cheers
ZZ
These questions are really related to how your employer is structuring this assignment. And no one can really answer that except your company.

1. You lose the permit after deregistering or moving your residency out of the country for 6 months or more. But it's not really relevant as when you get back you just apply for a new permit.

2. You have to work that out with your company. What are they offering?

3. You have to work that out with your company. If it's really a "short term assignment", then normally you should be keeping your residence in CH and be given temporary accommodation there paid by the company. A per diem or meals paid are usually also included as well. Anything else is set out by your company. If your company is a global company, they should have all this documented.

4. It depends on if you are getting paid in CH or DE.

5. No. They can't make you go to Germany without your consent. But they can terminate your employment if you don't go. Only you can tell if they would do that or not.

6. Of course you can refuse the project and ask them to find you something else in Switzerland. They are of course under no obligation to do this and they may well just let you go. Only you can tell if your company would do something like that. How flexible are they? How much work do they have in CH for you to do? How long will they pay you to have nothing to do?

You need to figure out with your company what the plan really is. Anyway, why wouldn't you want to take a short term assignment in Germany? A few months there won't kill you. Would you rather sit in the office with no work?

Good luck!
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Re: EU B permit- moving out for short term to another EU country

Thanks for reply, i am now considering to go to Germany, good opportunity to improve my German.
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Re: EU B permit- moving out for short term to another EU country

Hello. I really need some instructions about moving to Zurich. I am from Kosovo and my wife is from Macedonia, we are living in Bellinzona (Tessin) and we are really interesed to move to Zurich. I have B permit and my wife have the C permit, I don't if we have right to move in Zurich or not, for example if I find job before than my wife in ZH, do I have right to move there with B permit?
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Hello. I really need some instructions about moving to Zurich. I am from Kosovo and my wife is from Macedonia, we are living in Bellinzona (Tessin) and we are really interesed to move to Zurich. I have B permit and my wife have the C permit, I don't if we have right to move in Zurich or not, for example if I find job before than my wife in ZH, do I have right to move there with B permit?
Yes. But they will probably ask you why are are going there. So you should have a job before you get there.

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Re: EU B permit- moving out for short term to another EU country

Thank you for answer, but I already have passport of republic of Kosovo and somebody says that it is impossible to move in Zurich from Bellinzona with B permit, they says that my wife must find job in Zurich at first because she has C permit and than I can move with her, I don't know if I have right directly to move there with the B permit or not, at first I will find job there and than I will plan to move in Zürich.
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Thank you for answer, but I already have passport of republic of Kosovo and somebody says that it is impossible to move in Zurich from Bellinzona with B permit, they says that my wife must find job in Zurich at first because she has C permit and than I can move with her, I don't know if I have right directly to move there with the B permit or not, at first I will find job there and than I will plan to move in Zürich.

you should contact your local friendly "
Autorità cantonali della migrazione e preposte al mercato del lavoro"



http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...ntone_und.html
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Thank you for answer, but I already have passport of republic of Kosovo and somebody says that it is impossible to move in Zurich from Bellinzona with B permit, they says that my wife must find job in Zurich at first because she has C permit and than I can move with her, I don't know if I have right directly to move there with the B permit or not, at first I will find job there and than I will plan to move in Zürich.
She doesn't need to have a job to move to Zurich, but either she moves to Zurich first, or you need a job in Zurich.

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P.S. She doesn't physically need to move to Zurich first, just legally. We did the opposite, from Zurich to TI, with me moving to TI three months before she did, though legally both at the same time.
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Re: EU B permit- moving out for short term to another EU country

So, now I understood, at first I need to find a job and then to find any appartment there and later can come and my wife there. I had a lot of dilemas about moving in Zürich, because when I asked some peoples they gives me a different answers for example that I can't take appartment directly with B permit, my wife which has C permit must move at first there and than I can go there with her ..etc.....
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So, now I understood, at first I need to find a job and then to find any appartment there and later can come and my wife there. I had a lot of dilemas about moving in Zürich, because when I asked some peoples they gives me a different answers for example that I can't take appartment directly with B permit, my wife which has C permit must move at first there and than I can go there with her ..etc.....
As you are married, you must take the apartment together, and as she has a C permit, there is no problem.

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Re: EU B permit- moving out for short term to another EU country

Ow, Thank you very much for the help, I am really now happy that is not problem as we are married and as she has C permit, I am planing to move there at august or september. I really thought that it is a big problem to move from Ticino to Zürich, but now I have cleared ideas about moving.
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