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Old 21.01.2012, 14:47
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Belgianmum:
Well, you do have a point. And it's not an executive job, o what you said was my first thought.

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Unfortunatly I only sent an email to Hays on Friday evening, so I'll only have an answer next week. Should have sent it earlier I know
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Old 21.01.2012, 15:51
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Well, I don't know. You seem to have some insider information. But from my perspective, even if everyone in the company is "business casual" it is respectful to wear a suit to interviews & client meetings.

HBC, did the Hays representative give any mention of what you should wear?
Yes, I totally agree with you in general about wearing a suit for an interview but I was replying to this specific case.

Yes I have insider information. Although I don't work for Philip Morris myself (if I did I probably wouldn't be commenting on this thread)I know several people who do all of whom are in research at Neuchatel and given the info supplied so far by the OP I believe that one of them will be involved in the interview.

I have been told that business casual is fine for the interview and a suit and tie would be overkill especially for a lab tech job. The job is in research and in general scientific environments especially where lab work is involved are much more relaxed about dress code.

I would just like to come back to my earlier comments about working in the tobacco industry. The salary and benefits will make the job seem very tempting but be aware that as a scientist you may be serious limiting your job prospects in the future if you have worked for a tobacco company. This is for scientific jobs, secretaries, IT workers, accountants etc shouldn't normally face these issues but in science the tobacco industry is not well tolerated.
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Old 01.02.2012, 22:34
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Well, did the interview. It went pretty nice, at least for me. Was amazed by the R&D center, really full of young people.

It was also my first time in Switzerland. It was...strange. Everyone seemed happy(except bus drivers, like someone said here in another thread), unlike my current country. Loved the public transport.

And the weather, though only 0ºC (in Portugal at mid day is around 14º or even 17º) was really not bad at all(here 7º due to wind and humidity, is really cold). Just a shame I didn't see the blue sky reflecting on the Neuchatel Lake.

Let's wait and see how this turns out.
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Hi HBC

I have also been contacted by hays regarding a position at PMI, R&D.

I am waiting for a response and curious now about the interview you had.

How long was the interview and was it any specific question that you felt difficult to answer? how about the benefits mentioned regarding the relocation process? the salary? i belive these things are of importents when you decide to move to a country such as switzerland...

You mentioned the dresscode earlier, how did it end up finally?

did they tell you how long time it will take before they get back to You?

Lots of questions to answer...but it would help me alot....

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Old 08.02.2012, 16:18
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Hi there.

The interview in itself was more of a get to know each other. No hard questions, only some very tiny technical questions. It was more, like I said, for me to explain my CV and for them to see what kind of worker I am.

We didn't talk about salary or benefits. Only a question regarding how I though about moving to Switzerland (like...really? a place where public transport works, has a mega lake, has winter AND summer sports?).

About the dress code, my recruiter contacted them and they informed that it would be either official or semi-official (their words), so it would be up to the candidate. I preferred the suit and tie.


And finally, they only said they would get in contact, but after requesting a specific time, they said two weeks...so mid february they said.


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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

hellooo HBC,

Thanks for such a quick reply.
well I hope you get the job. I belive it is an exciting feeling...
According to my recruiter, ones they really like your CV they invite you for a personal interview instead of the phone...

Soo have you started to look for a place to live? Any idea if it is hard to get an apartment that fits ones salary?

I wish you best of luck and dont forget to update us when its time to relocate to Switzerland...

Well when its time for me to move to switzerland you'll be a great sourse of info LOL

Best wishes
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Old 08.02.2012, 19:12
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Well, there are lots of links throughout this forum, so if you like surfing forums (I do) it looks like a nice place to gather info.

About the relocation: I remember seeing apartments ranging from 800 to 1200chf per month. But I recall the recruiter saying that the company had relocation packages so... first you get the job, then you make those decisions.
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Relocation. Hum.
If you have applied locally for the job, they may not like much paying up for that. It is a matter of what is budgeted for that job, and while PM has money (luxury goods business), a reloc implies both responsabilities (visa, and sending you back if the employment doens't work) and money.

Your willingness to relocate having been expressed, see what they offer. Normally, PM is competitive over most other companies (compensation-wise, they are in the upper fourth quartile).

Apartments in Lausanne for the 800 to 1200 are few and far between... Too many expats around.
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

SwedMim:

So what about you? Have you been interviewed already?
I'm on that "self doubt" phase...aka the long wait.



lilith:
The reason the recruiter mentioned me that it might offer a relocation package is probably due to me being in Portugal an not in CH or a nearby country.
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Old 15.02.2012, 13:14
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Relocation. Hum.
If you have applied locally for the job, they may not like much paying up for that. It is a matter of what is budgeted for that job, and while PM has money (luxury goods business), a reloc implies both responsabilities (visa, and sending you back if the employment doens't work) and money.

Your willingness to relocate having been expressed, see what they offer. Normally, PM is competitive over most other companies (compensation-wise, they are in the upper fourth quartile).

Apartments in Lausanne for the 800 to 1200 are few and far between... Too many expats around.
Given that they have invited the OP to come here from Portugal for the interview I think it's highly likely they have budgeted for the relocation package which is usually extremely generous.

Since the job is in Neuchatel I think he would be looking for appartments here and it's fairly easy to find them in that price range here.

Don't worry about the time HBC as PMI are always pretty slow in getting back to people.
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So what about you? Have you been interviewed already?
I'm on that "self doubt" phase...aka the long wait.



lilith:
The reason the recruiter mentioned me that it might offer a relocation package is probably due to me being in Portugal an not in CH or a nearby country.

HBC:

Hi there,

I haven't got any news yet...according to my recruiter it takes time...so I am still waiting....
The self doubt part is normal...but you have already met them and they know about your potentials....
The job is worth waiting for!

The relocation allowance is of interest for me because in case of getting the job, I will have to move with my husbend from Sweden to CH...

In this threde I also read that PMI are good at getting back to one even if the job is not available... I guess No answer yet is a good answer

I have been waiting two months now and am wiling to wait as long as it takes

Have a Great Day.....
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

It is true that the reloc packages are very good.
Many things to ask and clarify if an offer comes through... Would you be relocated and become a "local" employee, or would you be relocated and be an "expat" (that means that you would after a theoretical max of 5 years be sent either back to PT/SW, or onward to a new assignment).

As an expat, the base salary would be lower, but you would make up on that with all the living expenses being covered - so rental, cost of living, hypotax, schools for the kids etc. As a local, your base salary would be higher, and if should you be expatriated in the future (and in PMI, expatriation is the fundamental of many careers), the comparative salary scale would be the Swiss one.

Good luck to both SwedMim and HBC!
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Well, 4 weeks passed and nothing. I assume that even if it was a "No" they would contact right? They are going to reimburse the trip..

Well, I'll wait some more days and then probably call the recruiter.

Waiting is sooo boring
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Well, 4 weeks passed and nothing. I assume that even if it was a "No" they would contact right?
No. Many don't. Send your receipt in ASAP for your money or they might forget that too.
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

[QUOTE=HBC;1499997]Well, 4 weeks passed and nothing. I assume that even if it was a "No" they would contact right? They are going to reimburse the trip..

Well, I'll wait some more days and then probably call the recruiter.

Waiting is sooo boring[/QUOTE

Well well it seems to take alot of time for pmi to respond.
I havent heard anything yet as well.
According to my recruter it can take up to 3 months...

Its been 3 months soon... Still no answer...
Perhaps they do not consider it necessary to rrspond, if the answer is a no.
Or what do you guys think...?

HBC:
I belive it would be good to contact the recruiter in a couple of days.....
Waiting is very borring i soooo agree
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Called the recruiter a few minutes ago. Got the answer I wanted: either positive or negative, an answer will be given. He also said that in case of a negative answer, they will give a reason for it (don't know if it's for the candidate or the recruiter, given that they receive for each chosen candidate, right?).
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

It can take a VERY long time for PMI to respond but you will always get an answer. If it's any consolation to you it's usually a shorter wait for a no than a yes.

As an example there is somebody who started this month who had their first contact with PMI (an informal interview at a conference) last May. They are really not in a hurray. Very often one or other of the people involved in the decision making will be travelling so it's not easy to find a time to schedule interviews for all the candidates within a short time frame and then get together to discuss their opinions.

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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Well it seems to take alot of time.
I am still waiting... According to my recruiter the responce takes time....
ALOT OF TIME!

Waiting is borring and exciting specially if it involves relocation...a new country...everything changes....

Let's see what happens
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Re: Experience with Philip Morris or Hays

Hays is garbage....like most of employment agencies here they do zero...PMI screw them
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Well, I got the refund. So, if I don't get the job, at least I won a trip to switzerland
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