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Base salary 150K CHF + various benefits, train tickets, insurance, plus an additional 10K in allowances for mobile phone usage and sandwiches :O).

On top a commission structure based on revenue. This is a new business intitial revenue grown will be slow for the first months but due to the unique nature of the service/product offered is expected to increase very fast.

OTE earning are expected for year 1 to be around 200K - 250K CHF
It would be interesting to know what the product or service this company is going to do, its geographic market etc and even the budget would be interesting to see.

It would also be interesting to know the actual percent bonus on "revenue" (sales or profit) structure but from my experiences, sales turnover seldom reaches budget and profit is even less likely to be achieved because of "unforseen/unexpected costs".

Usually the figures of start up Budgets are dreamed up by Sales Executives that kid themselves and have no idea of the true costs.

Internet companies (selling products) take usually 3 years to start making profits and have huge losses in those three years and total lack of cash flow.

What I am trying to say is plan to live on chf 100,000 for the first three years and think of any bonus as an extra and stash it away.
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Re: Have a look at my package: Is this a decent salary for? Zurich

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Re: Have a look at my package: Is this a decent salary for? Zurich

Is "your package is rather small, negotiate and enlargement allowance with your boss" already taken? No? Where'z the patent office in Zurich?
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I have said it before, on one of the one hundred threads listed below, it is amazing how many computer experts fail to search a simple website,
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Good day everyone,

Base salary 150K CHF + various benefits, train tickets, insurance, plus an additional 10K in allowances for mobile phone usage and sandwiches :O).
I know Switzerland is expensive, but 8.5K is a lot of sandwiches! (i assume you'll take flat rate mobile for approx. 120 bucks a month).

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Exactly! If one one post was there it would not be conclusive... If you read my initial post...... You would have understood this.... Ofcourse I searched the web and different forums. Some people prefer to moan about others rather than to do something constructive.

It is ok to talk about money. It is all around us and affects our lives every single day. The more we know the better. I am worth every penny if not alot more. Every one in my team knows what I earn and future teams will work with salary transparency. This should not be a secret. At the end of the line it is only money. And avoid frustrated remarks like the one you have posted.

Mais ca c'est la vie :O)

On a positive note I might adopt a peasant family of 4. Cannot wait for the free milk and cheese. Might be cheaper in the long run and I do not have run to the supermarket.

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Old 12.11.2011, 18:43
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Re: Have a look at my package: Is this a decent salary for? Zurich

No idea if it is a lot they just pay that. Was not my idea but every CHF is one :O)

Looking forward to Zurich. Love CH great please to work and live.


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I know Switzerland is expensive, but 8.5K is a lot of sandwiches! (i assume you'll take flat rate mobile for approx. 120 bucks a month).

Now I understand why you're looking for that swimming pool / gym

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On a positive note I might adopt a peasant family of 4. Cannot wait for the free milk and cheese. Might be cheaper in the long run and I do not have run to the supermarket.

Happy days.
You could adopt a Greek, I recon some neighbouring countries will start the program soon.
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Old 12.11.2011, 23:19
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Exactly! If one one post was there it would not be conclusive... If you read my initial post...... You would have understood this.... Ofcourse I searched the web and different forums. Some people prefer to moan about others rather than to do something constructive.

It is ok to talk about money. It is all around us and affects our lives every single day. The more we know the better. I am worth every penny if not alot more. Every one in my team knows what I earn and future teams will work with salary transparency. This should not be a secret. At the end of the line it is only money. And avoid frustrated remarks like the one you have posted.
The people who have been trying to coax you to use better manners in talking to the forum have been doing something constructive. You insisting that your manners should be the norm is not constructive.

You talking down to everyone else in the forum, as exemplified in your post above, shows a lack of willingness to learn and adapt.

Interestingly, all the really good sales people I've had work for me were amazingly quick to learn and had a good ear for the correct tone to adopt in dealing with a new group of people. Good luck hitting your targets.
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Old 12.11.2011, 23:38
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Re: Have a look at my package: Is this a decent salary for? Zurich

Speaking of understatement, I have no idea how much my closest friend makes...
To the OP, perhaps you could fill in these gaps as well?

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Don't you really see that transparency in your team and transparency on a public forum are two completely different things? And Switzerland is very small, as someone said.
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Honestly now, how many sales people have you ever heard of who could be described using the term "computer expert"?
..all of those who have to interview the IT dudes and are secretly hoping they're going to understand what them "computer experts" are on about
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..all of those who have to interview the IT dudes and are secretly hoping they're going to understand what them "computer experts" are on about
I keep reading what you wrote but I'm not in on the joke. Please explain?
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I am completly satisfied with my package!
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I am completly satisfied with my package!
Ah, but more importantly, is your significant other?
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Ah, but more importantly, is your significant other?
She suggested I make the post.
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