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Hello,

i might have possibility to work outside European Union for 6 months , currently i'm in RAV (for few months)

do you know if i will loose my benefits completely if for example this 6 months contract will end and i would want to come back to switzerland?

will it prelong the time i can be in rav, etc. ?
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Hello,

i might have possibility to work outside European Union for 6 months , currently i'm in RAV (for few months)

do you know if i will loose my benefits completely if for example this 6 months contract will end and i would want to come back to switzerland?

will it prelong the time i can be in rav, etc. ?
If your permit allows you to return, your entitled to your days during your rahemnfrist.
The rahemnfrist never gets longer however the 400 days in 2 years is only 18 months of benefits so being away for 6 months will cost you nothing.
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Re: job outside Switzerland while in RAV

i have unrestricted B permit valid for 5 years, so no problem

so if i understood correctly, 6 months is maximum i can be without benefits to not 'loose' anything?

meaning, if i go to work for let's say 7 months contract, i will loose 1 month of benefits?

this contract is only for 6 months anyway, but i just wanted to know

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i have unrestricted B permit valid for 5 years, so no problem

so if i understood correctly, 6 months is maximum i can be without benefits to not 'loose' anything?

meaning, if i go to work for let's say 7 months contract, i will loose 1 month of benefits?

this contract is only for 6 months anyway, but i just wanted to know
You only get benefits if your looking for work in CH & not earning any money, so you don't loose anything as you would not be entitled to your maxamium entitlement due to working.

If your registered & do lots of part time work in CH, you can requalify based on earnings & open a new Rahemnfrist.

If your out of CH for 7 months you loose your B permit & I assume your entitlement. If you contract is 6 months the same will apply as you can only be away for a max of 6 months, so 5 months & 3 weeks would be fine!
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Re: job outside Switzerland while in RAV

first question is - are you sure i loose my B permit (EU type) if i'm over 6 months outside CH? it says on it valid until June 2014, that's it. i don't even need to renew it.

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by 'loosing' my benefits, i meant, that i will not get paid of course durning the time i work, but i will get paid later the same amount.

so let's forget about leaving switzerland for a second:

I'm insured until 30 June 2013 ( i worked in 2009-2011 for over 2 years), but i will not get benefits until that day because as you mentioned, they pay maximum of 400 working days which is around 18 months.

So the time they plan to pay me is until around January 2013, if i don't find a job, right? (of course minus the penalties i got that are standard, etc.)

Now going back to leaving switzerland for a while.. if i move out to another country for 6 months contract, and come back, nothing will change in my opinion other than the fact that they will pay me until 30 June 2013 this time (not 1 January 2013). and of course they will not pay me while i'm working in another country. So just the effective last payment date will be postponed for 6 months later. the total amount paid will be the same.

is that correct? and if not, why? i think i'm insured for 2 years with 18 months of payment, so what is the problem if i leave the country for 6 months?
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first question is - are you sure i loose my B permit (EU type) if i'm over 6 months outside CH? it says on it valid until June 2014, that's it. i don't even need to renew it.

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by 'loosing' my benefits, i meant, that i will not get paid of course durning the time i work, but i will get paid later the same amount.

so let's forget about leaving switzerland for a second:

I'm insured until 30 June 2013 ( i worked in 2009-2011 for over 2 years), but i will not get benefits until that day because as you mentioned, it's maximum of 400 working days which is around 18 months.

So the time they plan to pay me is until around January 2013, if i don't find a job, right? (of course minus the penalties i got that are standard, etc.)

Now going back to leaving switzerland for a while.. if i move out to another country for 6 months contract, and come back, nothing will change in my opinion other than the fact that they will pay me until 30 June 2013 this time (not 1 January 2013). and of course they will not pay me while i'm working in another country. So just the effective last payment date will be postponed for 6 months later.

is that correct? and if not, why? i think i'm insured for 2 years with 18 months of payment, so what is the problem if i leave the system for 6 months?
Look at what your permit says, it may say may of 3 months or possibly 6 months out of Switzerland, it's not 3 months plus a day or 6 months plus a day!

You are entitled to a max of 400 days upto 30 June 2013. If you leave CH & loose the entitlement to benefits then you will get nothing. I said 'if your permit allows you to return' in my first post for a VERY good reason.

You could of course just see what happens as your convinced your right on this, let us know were very interested.
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Re: job outside Switzerland while in RAV

The current permit expires once you've been out of the country for 6 months. As an EU citizen, you can of course apply for a new permit if and when you come back, if the rules haven't changed by then. But you couldn't go back on benefits then, as you'd have to have a job or be a self-funded jobseeker.
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Re: job outside Switzerland while in RAV

i read my permit b, and you are right of course, i will loose it after 6 months period of being outside Switzerland, but i should get a new one when i will come back i think.

So if i come back before the end of my RAV insurance, and i will start looking for a job, why would i be not entitled to get RAV payments?

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If your permit allows you to return, your entitled to your days during your rahemnfrist.
i should be then entitled to payments with new permit B for at least 3 months, as this is for how long EU nationals can come to switzerland and look for work. right?
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i read my permit b, and you are right of course, i will loose it after 6 months period of being outside Switzerland, but i should get a new one when i will come back i think.

So if i come back before the end of my RAV insurance, and i will start looking for a job, why would i be not entitled to get RAV payments?

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i should be then entitled to payments with new permit B for at least 3 months, as this is for how long EU nationals can come to switzerland and look for work. right?
I suspect it would be a big mistake to leave for more than 5 1/2 months, I am sure there will be a very good reason not to pay you out, however I get the feeling your not going to listen to me on this one!
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