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24.02.2012, 15:36
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HI
I was just wondering, if when you find a job and leave RAV or indeed your RAV entitlements are finished, and you work again, what happens in 6/12 months 5 years or what ever, if you again find yourself unemployed ? are you entitled to RAV again or what happens ? I have looked through the forum and could not see anything to answer this hense new thread.
I have been unemployed some months now due to company closure, and did a German course with RAV which was good, I am looking for a new job and toying with some ideas of going it alone, but time moves so fast !!!!!
I have missed this forum, as I have not been logged on for some time as I was not well, and nice to see so many familiar names around
Any advice is appreciated.
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25.02.2012, 08:40
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I am not 100% sure if this is correct, but this is my understanding:
If you have been collecting RAV for 5 months, you have to payback into the system for 5 months to collect your full RAV benefits (in case you are unemployed again) or have some months deducted from your total benefit.
Does anyone know how long one can collect RAV benefits 12 or 18 months?
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25.02.2012, 08:44
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Every time you register for unemployment the RAV looks at your entitlement again. There are many rules, and it is difficult to predict any situation, but basically you need to have worked full time in 12 months over the previous 24 months. There are other rules if you have children, and which type of permit you have. Once you find work or you are sent to social welfare your RAV file is closed.
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25.02.2012, 09:16
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Hi
Thanks for the reply, No I was never sent on any course to explain, just a German course.
The replies are useful, I was really just concerned that if used up my 400 RAV days, before finding a job, would I be entitled to RAV benefits again in the future some months / years down the line if I eventually found a job and then unemployed again or if RAV 400 days was a one time thing, but from how I understand you both, once I am back in employment for 12/24 mths I would be entitled once again.
Here's hoping a job shows up soon. My health is not back 100% but I actually think finding a job will improve it, something to focus on when my little boy is at school, I am not use to being at home all the time, my Doc said he should sign me off for 6/8 weeks, but would this not completely screw me with RAV and financially ?
thanks guys
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25.02.2012, 09:32
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Once a rahemenfrist is open you have upto 400 days over the next 2 years.
If you become unemployed again near the end you will get the payout as previousely agreed upto the END of the original rahemnfrist-
After the 1st rahemnfrist is over you may qualify again depending how much you worked in the past 24 months (min 12 months).
HOWERVER you pay out is based on the average of the LAST 12 months earnings, if some of those months you did not work then 0 is used for that month. If you do some part time work there will be a 'bonus' in the calculation, it's too complicated to explain as there are many possibilities. Doing a RAV course counts as 0 earnings!
In the film business many people work on very short contracts, they may always be in a rahemnfrist and claim the odd week here & there when they dont work.
You can be off work for a short period with the RAV, it used to be upto 3 months, I don't no the calculation as I have never been in that position. I think it would be better not to be signed off work unless totally necessary. As long as your able to actively look for work & go to interviews, with the intention of working it should be OK.
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01.03.2012, 09:49
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so what happens if you were with RAV for say 2 months, got your job, unregistered and 10 months later are without a job again? does one have to do the entire process (awareness session, language assessment, all paperwork) from the scratch?
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01.03.2012, 10:46
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | so what happens if you were with RAV for say 2 months, got your job, unregistered and 10 months later are without a job again? does one have to do the entire process (awareness session, language assessment, all paperwork) from the scratch? | | | | | Read the post above yours!
Your would already be in an open rahemnfrist, the paperwork is done, do what you did for the first 2 months!
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01.03.2012, 11:26
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| | Re: Life after RAV | Quote: | |  | | | Read the post above yours!
Your would already be in an open rahemnfrist, the paperwork is done, do what you did for the first 2 months! | | | | | OK OK. I was unsure how the rahmenfrist really works and pertains to paperwork and all the processes. Understand the bit around the timings and what's involved but cannot find any info which tells you IF you actually need to deal with the entire registration process as the 1st time around.
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01.03.2012, 11:40
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | OK OK. I was unsure how the rahmenfrist really works and pertains to paperwork and all the processes. Understand the bit around the timings and what's involved but cannot find any info which tells you IF you actually need to deal with the entire registration process as the 1st time around. | | | | | Your registered for 2 years, any month you don't work you will get unemployment pay, the max no of days they will pay is under 2 years .
If you work 12 months during the 24 months you qualify again, just fill in the claim form & carry on again for 2 years
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