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Old 24.02.2012, 16:50
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Any experience with NOT getting work permit?

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Ive just signed a contract for a work in an investment company in Zurich. It is of course conditioned on a work they are about to apply for me. Has anyone here been exposed to some bas situations where work permits were not granted?
Let me add that I have a PhD from a Swiss institute and the profile of the work is to some extent related to my education
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Old 28.02.2012, 20:11
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Re: Any experience with NOT getting work permit?

A friend of mine was not able to get a permit in canton of Geneva. They have refused the application.
Luckily, part of the company was located in Vaud, and they accepted new application for him.
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Old 28.02.2012, 20:21
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Re: Any experience with NOT getting work permit?

Thanks. any explanations why he did not get the permit?
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Old 28.02.2012, 20:46
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Ive just signed a contract for a work in an investment company in Zurich. It is of course conditioned on a work they are about to apply for me. Has anyone here been exposed to some bas situations where work permits were not granted?
Let me add that I have a PhD from a Swiss institute and the profile of the work is to some extent related to my education
Where do you come from & what passport do you hold?
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Old 28.02.2012, 20:58
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Re: Any experience with NOT getting work permit?

I was denied a work permit in December. I was living in canton Vaud and intending to work in Geneva. After my dossier was passed around different agencies and authorities for six months and an innumerable amount of dead-end phone calls, they never even provided me with a reasonable explanation.

My contract was for an unpaid internship, initially for six months but changed to four in order to comply with Geneva regulations. One of the reasons given for my refusal at the end was that the terms of the contract (which they decided) were too long. My employer told me that, for every reason they gave, she had a legitimate retort that put the ball back in their court, for which they responded that it would need to be taken up with a higher office.

I never received any phone calls, emails or letters at any stage of the process; it was always either myself or my employer. To this day, I have still never gotten any notification about the decision. Had it not been for me contacting my employer after she spoke with them, I would still be in the blue as to what's happening.

All of this surely has nothing to do with your circumstances, but it seemed like an appropriate place to vent.
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Old 28.02.2012, 21:12
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Re: Any experience with NOT getting work permit?

Israeli passport. B-permit since September 2008 on phd and postdoc (including some salary).


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Old 28.02.2012, 21:52
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Re: Any experience with NOT getting work permit?

Reasons why the authorities might knock back your permit:

- employer fails to demonstrate that they have advertised properly across Switzerland and the EU for long enough to 'prove' they can't find a suitable applicant inside Europe.
- employer fails to demonstrate how your skills/experience/qualifications are fitted perfectly to their prospective job
- employer offers a salary below what is considered by the authorities to be high enough - based on accepted averages for that position, or a basic cost of living assessment.
- employer stuffs up paperwork or completely bungles the application.

In general, Non-EU permits are for highly specialised jobs, and particularly where the job includes building the expertise of the team, or local staff, passing on skills/expertise to other 'locals' and/or increasing employment opportunities...

If you do get issued an L permit with an 'open/permanent' contract ,there is a risk that they will not roll-over to a B after the two years - the application process has to be repeated to convert the L to the B - the employer will have to re-advertise the position and demonstrate for a second time that they cannot fill the position from within Europe.

If you are lucky enough to get a B permit without any major 'strings attached', good for you, but don't plan your life on that basis.

The 'good' news (if you can call it that) is that if they are going to knock the permit back on any sort of 'fails to meet requirements' they will let the employer know pretty quickly. The authorities are actually not bad at telling an employer what they need to do, and how to jump through the hoops, or how to at least make sure the paperwork is done properly the first time...

I've heard of prospective employers having to re-lodge the papers because the salary was deemed too low, and we were advised that a permit for a person from the 'New EU' would not be approved unless it was for a 100% position.

Oh, and I thought of another problem with L vs B - L permits are tied to the employer, and it can be very difficult to change jobs whilst you are on an L. Once you switch to the B, you usually can change employers without all the added paperwork. (I was working for one employer, and signed up to start with my new employer the week that my permit rolled over from the L to B, to avoid a lot of headache).

I am aware of one person 'in real life' and one person via the forum who was able to get permission to change employers, but both employers had to be in support of the arrangement, and even then it was not easy to convince the authorities...
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