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I found out today that my contract won't be renewed for another year (ends mid April). I am a UK citizen with an L permit working for the same company for nearly a year (will be in April) and have been paying Swiss taxes through a Swiss Payroll company. The question I have is, will I be eligible for any Swiss unemployment benefits while I look for my next contract? Any responses would be much appreciated.
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Old 29.02.2012, 15:34
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Re: End of contract

Based on the information given, quite possibly
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Re: End of contract

you will get some unemployment benefits. But as you know it already by now that your contract won't be renewed you might get less than what you expect and not from the first day of unemployment. I deffenetly would search for a new job as soon as possible.
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Re: End of contract

indeed, get your resumé up to date and get looking for a new position. What do you do?
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Old 01.03.2012, 10:52
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Re: End of contract

Did you pay unemployment insurance contributions (or the equivalent, eg NI in the UK) in an EU country before you moved to Switzerland? They could count towards your RAV entitlements.
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Re: End of contract

You need to start searching for jobs as soon as you know you will be dismissed.

Try and apply for 10 jobs per month. Keep this evidence, adverts, letters, e-mails, as the RAV needs to see you are making a good effort.

http://www.bsv.admin.ch/themen/alv/index.html?lang=en

www.treffpunkt-arbeit.ch/

Note that many claims cannot be back dated, always get things cleared up as soon as possible.
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Re: End of contract

Maybe it's worth to get some information from your local RAV (Regionale Arbeitsvermittlung) office, as they can tell you what exactly they are expecting from you in order to claim some benefits.

In any way, I hope you soon will find a suitable solution- good luck to you.
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you will get some unemployment benefits. But as you know it already by now that your contract won't be renewed you might get less than what you expect and not from the first day of unemployment. I deffenetly would search for a new job as soon as possible.
If you have worked for a min if 12 months you would be entitled to upto 260 days over the next 2 years.
You need to start applying for 10 advertised jobs a month.
Go to the RAV ASAP to register .

There is a waiting period of upto 25 working days depending on your salary , also if you don't look hard enough for work NOW you can be punished for upto a further 90 working days.
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Re: End of contract

I have already updated my resume. I am an IT contractor. Specifically, C# .NET and C++ programmer.
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indeed, get your resumé up to date and get looking for a new position. What do you do?
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Re: End of contract

I have about 6 weeks left to the end of my contract but as soon as I found out yesterday I start contacting agencies mainly for jobs in Switzerland. Does contacting agencies count towards 10 jobs per month? Question: Am I expected to look for jobs back home in UK or EU too? I am an IT contractor, will I be expected to consider perm roles too?

Should I go and register with RAV now or wait to the end of my contract proper?

I will have worked for exactly 12 months by end of contract. 260 days over 2 years. Not sure what that means per month assuming I find something within first 3 months.

Sorry but I have yet another question. What do I do with my apartment. I guess I should really keep it if I am to stay in Switzerland as apart from a roof I will need an address right? It really is a v cheap place, only 500 per month. Although I sometimes wonder if I could spend some of my job hunting time in UK and spend some time with my daughter.

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If you have worked for a min if 12 months you would be entitled to upto 260 days over the next 2 years.
You need to start applying for 10 advertised jobs a month.
Go to the RAV ASAP to register .

There is a waiting period of upto 25 working days depending on your salary , also if you don't look hard enough for work NOW you can be punished for upto a further 90 working days.
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Re: End of contract

Yes I paid NI and tax as a UK employee before coming here. Needless to say, I have paid tax and other things (LV, insurances,pernsion etc) per my monthly salary here. Total deductions of 30% of my income.

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Yes I paid NI and tax as a UK employee before coming here. Needless to say, I have paid tax and other things (LV, insurances,pernsion etc) per my monthly salary here. Total deductions of 30% of my income.
CHeck HMRCs "Forms you might need". Be aware that if you move back to the UK, you'll be on JSA. That's GBP 67.50 per week (plus housing benefit if eligible), or GBP 105.95 per week for a couple. You'll be better off on the RAV.
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I have already updated my resume. I am an IT contractor. Specifically, C# .NET and C++ programmer.
are you prepared to move? there is much dev work out there for you....

www.monster.ch www.jobwinner.ch etc
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Does contacting agencies count towards 10 jobs per month? Question: Am I expected to look for jobs back home in UK or EU too? I am an IT contractor, will I be expected to consider perm roles too?
1. Yes, contacting agencies counts, as does sending your CV spontaneously to a company even if there is no advert posted. But the RAV might not be happy if you "only" do that, you should respond to some ads as well.

2. The rules say that you cannot refuse a job within 2 hours' commuting distance - so unless there is some exception linked to your L permit status, you would not have to look for jobs outside of Switzerland.

3. Yes, you will be expected to consider any offer you receive, though if you can make up your ten-a-month quota by only applying for contract jobs you will be OK as well. Unless the RAV actually sends you to interview for one of the jobs they have on their books, in which case there is no escape... but I've never heard of this actually happening to anyone.
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permit is a non-issue for UK national......
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Re: End of contract

does anyone know whether Swiss unemployment benefits applies also for non EU with B permit?
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Re: End of contract

Hi Dolan199

It depends on the type of B permit you have. Some are linked specifically to employement with a specific employer.
In my personal case, I was able to recieve the RAV money when looking for work. Im non EU (Australian) and on a B Permit.
Id also made some arguments to the RAV before it was clear whether or not I was eligible or not, that I was paying the compulsory unemployement insurance whilst employed. It seemed pretty odd to me, to be required to pay for something you would never be eligible for. As I was "cleared" to be eligible it was never an issue.
The normal other requirements apply though. Best thing to do is ask the RAV in person.
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Re: End of contract

Thanks Sean. Yes I am definitely prepared to move. Thanks for the links, yes there are some .NET roles, but most were not suited as they need a few other things which I don't have in my CV. I have tried jobserve.com and a few agencies that had advertised there have put me forward for a few roles.

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Re: End of contract

Since your contract ends mid April, you can technically wait until mid-March to register with RAV. If you register any later than mid-March, then you will run the risk of getting penalized for registering late.
I would recommend you register by March 5th, since it is the cut off date in Geneva for submitting documents to RAV office inorder to get full benefits for the coming month. Don't wait until you receive all your official paperwork from your current employer. I did that and was penalized one month RAV benefit, since I submitted my documents after the 5th of the month.
Take your original contract, AVS card, and salary slips for past 6 months. If you don't speak French/German, it might help to take a translator as well.
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Re: End of contract

Thank you for that info. But I don't know where to find a translator from, all my colleagues/friends will be working during office hours and it will be asking too much for them to take time off for me..

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Since your contract ends mid April, you can technically wait until mid-March to register with RAV. If you register any later than mid-March, then you will run the risk of getting penalized for registering late.
I would recommend you register by March 5th, since it is the cut off date in Geneva for submitting documents to RAV office inorder to get full benefits for the coming month. Don't wait until you receive all your official paperwork from your current employer. I did that and was penalized one month RAV benefit, since I submitted my documents after the 5th of the month.
Take your original contract, AVS card, and salary slips for past 6 months. If you don't speak French/German, it might help to take a translator as well.
Good luck.
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