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How secure is a CDI ( contract indeterminé ) in Switzerland?

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I am in a CDI ( contrat a dure indetermine ) with a 3 month trial (which is the norm in Switzerland). What security will I have after the 3 month is over that I will not be fired? I heard on the grape vine that in Switzerland, unlike in France, they can sack you anytime and for no reason. Is this true? I am considering buying a place and I need some guarantees before I do so....any ideas folks?

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Hi there,

I am in a CDI ( contrat a dure indetermine ) with a 3 month trial (which is the norm in Switzerland). What security will I have after the 3 month is over that I will not be fired? I heard on the grape vine that in Switzerland, unlike in France, they can sack you anytime and for no reason. Is this true? I am considering buying a place and I need some guarantees before I do so....any ideas folks?

thanks!

david

-Geneva

I months notice in the first year, 2 months in the second to ninth year & 3 months after 10 years.

After 12 months you would be entitled to uneployment pay for a year, after 18 months its 18 months.
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Re: How secure is a CDI ( contract indeterminé ) in Switzerland?

Thanks for that, so basically, even if I do something that might cause my boss to send me a letter, it'll just be a warning, not a reason for instant sacking. Thats good to know. Thanks!
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Re: How secure is a CDI ( contract indeterminé ) in Switzerland?

I think you got the correct answer by fatmanfilms wrong. They CAN fire you whenever they want. The notice period is one month in the first year etc unless it is stated otherwise in your contract (I always had 3 months from the start). But they can fire you nevertheless. You just have to work trough the notice period unless they let you go but keep on paying your salary (gardening leave).

Hope that helps to clarify
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Re: How secure is a CDI ( contract indeterminé ) in Switzerland?

It does, thanks! I just wanted to clarify the situation having worked in France for years, CDI means a job for life unless they really want to bully you out of the business or they find a reason to sack you. When I buy I just need to take out an insurance to protect myself against such eventualities.

I think that in France the chances of getting a CDI are less than CDD, simply because they can't sack you after....such a big problem to get rid of staff, so they prefer to give CDD's.

I don't know, my job is great. I get on fine with everybody, just don't want it to end that's all.....wanted to know where I stood, thanks for your reply guys!

Have a nice weekend!

David

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Re: How secure is a CDI ( contract indeterminé ) in Switzerland?

A CDI in CH is exactly that, a non-defined duration contract. Unlike France, an employer can fire you at any time (respecting the above-mentioned delays), without having to give any reason. So no need for any kind of warnings etc. If they don't like / need you, you're off.
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Re: How secure is a CDI ( contract indeterminé ) in Switzerland?

Actually, they have to give you a reason if you ask for it. But they can fire you for any reason.


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A CDI in CH is exactly that, a non-defined duration contract. Unlike France, an employer can fire you at any time (respecting the above-mentioned delays), without having to give any reason. So no need for any kind of warnings etc. If they don't like / need you, you're off.
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Actually, they have to give you a reason if you ask for it. But they can fire you for any reason.
Hence "your services are no longer required" is being accepted as a "reason".

To the OP:
If you're used to French work environments, even in the private sector (don't get me started on service public or entreprise publique), forget everything you know about labour law and start again.
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Thanks for that, so basically, even if I do something that might cause my boss to send me a letter, it'll just be a warning, not a reason for instant sacking. Thats good to know. Thanks!
I guess that depends on what you actually do
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