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please help with employment queries....

Hi Folks,

I've just recently moved to Basel, Switzerland. I am a journalist, but I am having to widen my options considering employment - so I need some advice...

How much should I charge if I am doing nannying work? I did some work for one family for a while which paid me 20 CHF per hour. I thought this was not much considering it's quite hard work. But when I went to another interview and said I charge 25CHF per hour I was told I was too expensive.

If I consider being a teacher, are the CELTA courses worth it? I mean, has anyone got any experience of doing one of these courses in Switzerland? If so, did you get a job easily out of it?

What about the employment agencies? I don't speak German yet, but I am enrolled with Kelly Services in Basel which has the Novartis contract. Has anyone gotten a job through this agency with Novartis, or is it more about knowing someone who works there?

Where can I find cheap medical insurance and how much do you pay for the basic cover? I can't afford much. Does anyone know if you can get a discount if you only work part-time?

As you can see, a few questions to be answered. I'm grateful to anyone who can offer any help.

Thanks and I hope in a few months I can repay the favour.

Heather
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Old 27.03.2012, 16:58
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I can't answer nannying or agency questions, but...

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...If I consider being a teacher, are the CELTA courses worth it? I mean, has anyone got any experience of doing one of these courses in Switzerland? If so, did you get a job easily out of it?
Experienced CELTA teachers on this forum have told me that you can get a job, but it might not be what you want early on. You might have to travel on your own time to clients' homes and offices, so the net pay may be less than it seems at first. Fixed (e.g., classroom) positions are limited in number. Also the course is a solid month of intensive training, so don't plan on having a life until you come out the other end.

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...Where can I find cheap medical insurance and how much do you pay for the basic cover? I can't afford much. Does anyone know if you can get a discount if you only work part-time?
No discount for part-time, as far as I know. I suggest picking something using www.comparis.ch, which allows you to compare prices and features.
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Re: please help with employment queries....

For nannying it would really depend on your experience. Let us know that & we can help some more.
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How much should I charge if I am doing nannying work?
The Swiss Red Cross is a reference on this matter, they provide a table of the common hourly rates in Basel:

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Adults 13.00-07.00 hrs
Fr. 12.-- per hour for 1 to 2 children

Adults 07.00-13.00 hrs
Fr. 14.-- per hour for 1 to 2 children
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The Swiss Red Cross is a reference on this matter, they provide a table of the common hourly rates in Basel:

Example:
Adults 13.00-07.00 hrs
Fr. 12.-- per hour for 1 to 2 children

Adults 07.00-13.00 hrs
Fr. 14.-- per hour for 1 to 2 children
Useful link BUT there is a difference between a Nanny and a Babysitter.
Heather- If you want to be paid more and if you are really serious about being a Nanny then maybe you should take the course the Red Cross offer. You can check this link: http://www.srk-basel.ch/pdf_vorlagen...gspersonen.pdf. I was searching for ''Lehrgang zur Nanny''- this course is in Zurich and lots of parents wants the Nanny to have this but you don't speak German. In Basel the only course they offer in English is: Emergencies and Common Childhood Diseases.

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Re: please help with employment queries....

I can only respond to the CELTA portion of your questions, but in my experience, taking a CELTA will open more doors for you and better prepare you for teaching. I took an online TEFOL, it's not at all adequate training, and I think I've enjoyed teaching less because of that under-preparedness. You can take the CELTA in other countries for less money. Think about your motivations for going the teaching route - most of the english teachers I know do it because it was something they could do, and few of them would say it's their passion - I've heard it over and over again and If you plan to be in Switzerland for a long time, it might be worth looking at something that is a bigger investment (ie: a bachelors or masters in something from a Swiss uni) that is something you truly enjoy doing. The public universities are not expensive (relatively) and will make you more desirable to swiss employers.
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Re: please help with employment queries....

I became a professional teacher here in Switzerland, but I'd had experience before. For me, training is vital to how you feel -it gives you support and without that, I think that it could easily become overwhelming.

The CELTA opened a lot of doors for me, and the more experience I get, the more I enjoy it. It's a job where you get instant gratification of your work, close contact with people and a lot of variation and flexibility. Sure, it has its downside, at first you don't get much work, but gradually, it increases. It's very varied and you meet people from many different walks of life.

As said above, the CELTA is intensive, but if you do go down this path, choose the intensive over part-time, the intensity, always being on the go and having things to do, will prepare you for your life as a teacher. With regard to actually taking a teaching qualification, I'd say go for it now... I know of non-qualified, but experienced teachers who have been teaching for 10+ years who have more trouble finding work than inexperienced younger teachers.

You never know if you're going to love your future career, but for me, if you're not interested in the chosen path in the first place, then you probably won't become more interested in it. There needs to be some sort of 'spark' to do it in the first place.
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Hello Heather

I did a CELTA course last summer as I wanted a sideline. I did it in London as it was less than half the price, no sorry, almost a third of the price of the same course in Zurich!!!!!!! I found work but not as much as I thought. The CELTA was a great experience and prepared me well for teaching classes of students.

In Switzerland the pay for English teachers is relatively high but the demand for English teachers is low. In the UK there is higher demand for English teachers but the pay is c***.

You can get work here but it may take some time to build up the hours. Job adverts for well known language schools in the internet attract very high numbers of highly qualified English teachers. I found part time work through the Uni jobs board. It won't pay for your pension but it's fantastic fun and a great learning experience and you can have holidays abroad in exotic places and get paid for the privilege (well near enough). Other teaching work here can be very well paid and there are some serious shortages so English teaching may be a good start to a career here.

Find a course in England here:

http://www.cactustefl.com/

I recommend doing a five week course if possible as it is so intensive.

Find information on countries here, including Switzerland. The information is in depth but now a bit dated:

http://www.onlinetefl.com/teach-english-abroad/

I have found a few interesting job adverts here:
www.marktplatz.uzh.ch
www.jobwinner.ch/
www.e-tas.ch

Let me know if you need more details. Good luck with looking for a job. It can be very hard work finding something but it's worth it.

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