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Difficulties finding a job

Since October 2010 I've been looking for a job in Switzerland and I haven't been succesful.
I have a BSc. from a Swiss "Fachhochschule" plus some years of law in a south american university, a C work permit, speak English, Spanish (mother tongue), some Portuguese and German.
I have applied to many jobs directly and through agencies (also sending unsolicited applications) without success .
Right now I would take any job I'm offered (I mean anything besides construction).
Any tips on where I could apply to (besides Addeco, Manpower and the rest of the known job agencies)?.
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Hi, you've been lookling for quite some time, good luck with your search! What are you looking for and how good is your german? what skills do you have?
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Hi, you've been lookling for quite some time, good luck with your search! What are you looking for and how good is your german? what skills do you have?

I'm looking for any kind of job right now, temporary even unskilled (but ideally I would like to work in banking or finance).
My German is not as good as I would like but it should be around A2/B1.
Skills? Business Administration (major finance, minor logistics), advance user in MS Office, previous work experience as audit assistant, receptionist (HR Block in the US), administrative assistant and tour guide.

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Re: Difficulties finding a job

my advice is obvious I'm afraid, try the international companies if your german isn't fluent

good luck!
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Re: Difficulties finding a job

I tried the usual international companies already. what I'm trying to look for now is any job (as a factory worker, for example) and I can't seem to find job agencies offering those jobs. any tips?
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Old 28.03.2012, 19:48
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I tried the usual international companies already. what I'm trying to look for now is any job (as a factory worker, for example) and I can't seem to find job agencies offering those jobs. any tips?
I'm not sure about your field of study / expertise and job requirements.....is there's any particular certificates or skills that are always required....maybe you can upgrade your academic path a bit to meet the market needs?

It's just an advice and it works in IT to upgrade your skills to match the new technologies and job requirements

Hope this helps and goodluck
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I'm looking for any kind of job right now, temporary even unskilled (but ideally I would like to work in banking or finance).
My German is not as good as I would like but it should be around A2/B1.
Skills? Business Administration (major finance, minor logistics), advance user in MS Office, previous work experience as audit assistant, receptionist (HR Block in the US), administrative assistant and tour guide.

Thanks for replying!
If the language skills in German/French etc aren't too hot, how about looking at telecoms/IT companies for work? A lot of these do not require German as a first language but rather a second one. The company where I am due to start work in July only had a pre-requisite of English with German a "nice to have".

Another point to make - have a good solid look at your CV and try to trim it down appropiately for the job to which you apply. For example, for secretarial work try to emphasize your organisational and administrational skills / experience - and also language. If you apply for another area, then tone these down where necessary.
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Re: Difficulties finding a job

I see banks advertising from time to time looking for Spanish / Portuguese / English / German for their Latam desks. That should definitely be a target area, often there is little requirement to know much about finance. Sad, but true. Speak to Michael Page and a bunch of other recruiters.

This page has links to several agencies and job boards

http://www.expatinch.com/html/employment.html

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Re: Difficulties finding a job

In my unprofessional opinion, you have to change something about your CV and your references.

Something isn't selling you.

Either have an employed friend, who has been the recipient of CV's in the past, have a look through it, or check through this:
http://www.manpower.ch/en/advice/the...e-striking-cv/
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I see banks advertising from time to time looking for Spanish / Portuguese / English / German for their Latam desks. That should definitely be a target area, often there is little requirement to know much about finance. Sad, but true. Speak to Michael Page and a bunch of other recruiters.

This page has links to several agencies and job boards

http://www.expatinch.com/html/employment.html

Good luck
I have applied and have gotten interviews (through my small network) for latam bank jobs but that's it, no luck so far.

I've tried with M. Page and other recruiters, too

And thanks for the link (I had stumbled upon it a while ago)
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Old 29.03.2012, 00:29
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Re: Difficulties finding a job

Hello neighbor. Is your cv findable in google?
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In my unprofessional opinion, you have to change something about your CV and your references.

Something isn't selling you.

Either have an employed friend, who has been the recipient of CV's in the past, have a look through it, or check through this:
http://www.manpower.ch/en/advice/the...e-striking-cv/
or both.
I think you're right. I'll go over my stuff with some friends and try to find where to improve my CV and references.

I'm afraid that one of my last names could harm my chances of getting a job in CH (it ends with "C")
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Hello neighbor. Is your cv findable in google?
Hi yourself, neighbor!

No, it isn't. Should it be? Do you think It's a good idea? I think I'm too paranoid (blame it on Switzeland) to have my CV online for the potentially the whole world to see

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I'm afraid that one of my last names could harm my chances of getting a job in CH (it ends with "C")
take that for granted.. if you have several last names, skip that one in your CV. Seriously.
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Hi yourself, neighbor!

No, it isn't. Should it be? Do you think It's a good idea? I think I'm too paranoid (blame it on Switzeland) to have my CV online for the potentially the whole world to see
Consider your C.V as an advertising campaign, construct it right and structure the wording and put it on every job engine, linkedin, xing,...etc.....i get recruiters calling out of the blue cause they found skill they're looking for on my online profiles...just make sure it's properly written and structured with professional photos and restrict all your private social media profiles
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No, it isn't. Should it be? Do you think It's a good idea? I think I'm too paranoid (blame it on Switzeland) to have my CV online for the potentially the whole world to see
I don't know about Switzerland but I personally have had excellent experience with Monster in Germany. I've had my CV posted there for years and am continually getting contacted by either potential employers or headhunters. Once you've worked over your CV, it could well be worth your while posting it in Monster.ch
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Since October 2010 I've been looking for a job in Switzerland and I haven't been succesful.
I have a BSc. from a Swiss "Fachhochschule" plus some years of law in a south american university, a C work permit, speak English, Spanish (mother tongue), some Portuguese and German.
I have applied to many jobs directly and through agencies (also sending unsolicited applications) without success .
Right now I would take any job I'm offered (I mean anything besides construction).
Any tips on where I could apply to (besides Addeco, Manpower and the rest of the known job agencies)?.
Hi, try this site: www.mini-jobs.ch
they have short term jobs in various fields. The jobs are listed mostly in German but many times they accept English speaking people...Good Luck
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I personally have had excellent experience with Monster in Germany. I've had my CV posted there for years and am continually getting contacted by either potential employers or headhunters.
I just posted mine there yesterday, on monster.ch I mean. In order to draw the attention of potential employers, did you also fill in the whole long and even a bit complicated profile section or did you manage to get their attention with your CV only?
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I just posted mine there yesterday, on monster.ch I mean. In order to draw the attention of potential employers, did you also fill in the whole long and even a bit complicated profile section or did you manage to get their attention with your CV only?
Originally when I had my CV posted it wasn't necessary to fill out all of that bumpf beforehand. The last couple of times that I uploaded an updated CV though it was; to be honest, I just filled out the minimum which was necessary and then uploaded the CV as a PDF - that way the formatting is more or less kept as it is intended (a Word file goes all to hell). The nice thing about the uploaded (and activated) CV is that you can always check how many potential employers have viewed it.
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Hi yourself, neighbor!

No, it isn't. Should it be? Do you think It's a good idea? I think I'm too paranoid (blame it on Switzeland) to have my CV online for the potentially the whole world to see
It's very simple, if you're not findable you don't exist unless you have a great network.

Monster, LinkedIn and xing are where the opportunities are, plus your own website with good coding for you to appear in google searches.

Try constructing some simple google searches for someone like what you have to offer and see how you appear .......

I don't use all my names all the time online ..... see above........
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