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Re: My experience finding an IT job in Switzerland

To be honest I've no idea how many I've worked with - VM's count half? Just been on a project setting up 20 IBM pSeries POWER7's - 20 servers (Frames in IBM-speak), but these are huge, 50/60 LPAR's each or so - don't even count, could easily get a 100 on each so is that 2000 already? I know Google have a 'lots of small Linux boxes' mentality so I hear, for redundancy but these are just PC's really made to think they are servers - breaks, pull it out, put a new one in...

You wouldn't have one person monitoring 20,000 servers anyway.......
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I wonder how many people in the world have actually monitored a 10000 server environment?

Then you are not only looking for that but for someone who has worked on a specific software in a 10000 server environment.

Couldn't it simply be that your expectations are unrealistic?
TBH I don't know enough about this subject to judge. Just wondering.

I always find job offers with a list of expected software knowledge amusing. It's a bit like a job offer for a language teachter who has worked with a specific course book or a job offer for a mechanic who has worked with screwdrivers of a specific brand. Unless the software is very very complicated it doesn't really make much sense.
The number is just an indicator we want someone whose used it before to a reasonable level its no big deal if they haven't had this particular figure. The agents have been fine with this. So far though we haven't had anyone with good skills in the more detailed parts of the software. They are all happily employed by their current employers it seems.
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Re: My experience finding an IT job in Switzerland

We've been looking for an experienced W2K8 infrastructure engineer - had one CV so far from an agency. The format of the CV was typical for the German speaking world - 2 pages and saying hardly anything about and how the guy had actually used his stated skills. In any case the guy was far too lightweight to be much use on our project.

I would have thought with the apparently poor market that good engineers would be easy to come by - apparently not. Does this mean the good guys are just sitting tight where they are?

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We've been looking for an experienced W2K8 infrastructure engineer - had one CV so far from an agency. The format of the CV was typical for the German speaking world - 2 pages and saying hardly anything about and how the guy had actually used his stated skills.
Uhmm, you are based in the German-speaking world. What prevented you from asking the agency for specific application requirements (details for what you are looking for) ?
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We've been looking for an experienced W2K8 infrastructure engineer - had one CV so far from an agency. The format of the CV was typical for the German speaking world - 2 pages and saying hardly anything about and how the guy had actually used his stated skills. In any case the guy was far too lightweight to be much use on our project.

I would have thought with the apparently poor market that good engineers would be easy to come by - apparently not. Does this mean the good guys are just sitting tight where they are?

Cheers,
Nick
Probably your problem is that you are relying on agencies to find candidates. Generally an agency will prefer to forward a weak candidate that they can make 40% on than a strong candidate that they can make 10% on.

There are plenty of good candidates, but they ask for a bit more, so they don't pass the agency's filter -- even if they are well within the range of what you yourself are offering.
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Re: My experience finding an IT job in Switzerland

Believe me, the spec we gave to the agencies was absolutely clear with the skillset we wanted - and no, I am not going to regurgitate it here.

It doesn't stop the agencies sending CVs from entirely unsuitable candidates. This was especially the case when we had the post- 9/11 and Enron downturn in 2001 / 2002.

The only CV we had so far was a typical 2 pager. The candidate listed some skills in a "summary" section. Nowhere in his "employment history" section did the candidate describe where and how he has used his listed skills. I would expect to see some description of what kinds of projects he used his skills in - particularly the skills we are after - as this gives an indication of whether he is likely to be a match for what we want.

Having been in the position of looking for work and having the frustration of my CV being rejected because I had LatestGizmo v1.1 and not LatestGizmo v1.1a, I will actually try to give a candidate a chance if they have something similar to what we want - so if someone comes with 6 years Win2k3 and 1.5 years Win2k8 for example they will be worth interviewing - provided the CV indicates the depth to which they have used said skills on specific projects etc etc.

And to go back to the OP, my first contract in CH was won on the basis of a couple of phone interviews in early 2001 - there was no need for a face to face. After the contract finished in 2004, finding a new job - I ended up going permie - was a bit more difficult and in the end I got something through a contact at the old client site. Certainly my experience is networking plays a bigger role in finding a job or contract than just responding to ads on Jobserve et al.

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Re: My experience finding an IT job in Switzerland

Just ran into a picture that pretty much sums up the original post:

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Just ran into a picture that pretty much sums up the original post:

Ha! Ha! I am exactly at this point at the moment.
I hear companies whine all the time: "Oh where, oh were are the reliable service techies that I can send to customers all over the planet?
"Here! Here! Here!" I shout, jumping excitedly from foot to foot.
"Ah! Great! Are you under 30, with 25 years experience and will you work for a pat on the back and a "atta boy"?
I got one rather friendly but wishy-washy reply so I thought: "let's dig" and I asked the real reason for the rejection. Off the record, of course: "Mr. Slammer at 52 you are simply too old"
There you go, tatty boom! Right between the eyes.
This sucks.
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Re: My experience finding an IT job in Switzerland

yes, age discrimination is a big problem in IT. Companies will search the globe for a suitable candidate under 30 and ignore a 50 year old with an excellent CV.
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Re: My experience finding an IT job in Switzerland

My company has an IT position available. Where is the best website to advertise it? A high level of German is required.
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My company has an IT position available. Where is the best website to advertise it? A high level of German is required.
What kind of IT thingy, German is not a problem, just curious you know.
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