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Contract ending and RAV

I have read all the RAV posts and have myself been at one point a service user already - however I am wondering the following.

Am I right that If I have a 3 months notice period as a contractor that I should be registering at RAV 3 months prior to the contract end date (assuming renewal has not been confirmed) and searching/applying for the usual x jobs per month for the 3 months?

Just a little concerned that if the contract is not renewed and I don't hear until only the month before I will get penalised.
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Re: Contract ending and RAV

Hi there

Having recently been made redundant my Swiss girlfriend contacted the RAV on my behalf and they told her I only need to register the day after I finish work, for me this will be the 2nd of July!

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Re: Contract ending and RAV

the rav will ask you however to prove that you have been looking during your "gardening leave" or notice period. in fact, in swiss law, when your employer gives notice you are allowed to go on interviews during the work day.

So if the rav doesn't feel you have done enough to avoid being unemployed they can penalize you financially above and beyond the regular "waiting period" for payouts.

While it is correct that you don't technically have to register with the rav right away, when you do, they will ask you to prove you have already been looking since you already knew you wouldn't be working as of x date.

(Speaking from experience btw)
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Re: Contract ending and RAV

During the last 3 months you should apply for 10 jobs a month, keep advertisements & any responses.

You don't have to register with RAV until the first day of unemployment, however I would go along a month to 6 weeks in advance & register.
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Re: Contract ending and RAV

Yes, NicoleCZ and fatmanfilms are absolutely right - although there is no obligation to register before the end of your contract, there is an obligation to start looking for work - and be able to prove that you are doing so - as soon as you know that your current contract is coming to an end (which in the event of a temp contract is interpreted as three months before the end date).
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Re: Contract ending and RAV

Thanks to everyone for the input - I think rules for a contract seem a little unclear compared to a standard job - there is no gardening leave. The 3 months notice period seems to be only if there is to be a change prior to contract end date i.e if I or employer decide to terminate then each party would need to give 3 months notice.
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Thanks to everyone for the input - I think rules for a contract seem a little unclear compared to a standard job - there is no gardening leave. The 3 months notice period seems to be only if there is to be a change prior to contract end date i.e if I or employer decide to terminate then each party would need to give 3 months notice.
Not quite - technically, you got notice about the end of the contract when you first signed it. The additional notice period applies only to open-ended contracts.
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Not quite - technically, you got notice about the end of the contract when you first signed it. The additional notice period applies only to open-ended contracts.
No, in this case the three-month notice period is in case of early cancellation, i.e. before the agreed end of contract.
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Thanks to everyone for the input - I think rules for a contract seem a little unclear compared to a standard job - there is no gardening leave. The 3 months notice period seems to be only if there is to be a change prior to contract end date i.e if I or employer decide to terminate then each party would need to give 3 months notice.
I do lots of short contracts, some just 1 day. It's never an issue to the RAV, just you should be looking for work.

However once you open a rahemnfrist you RAV salary is fixed for the next 24 months, so if you get a 12 month contract at double the pay, it won't be accounted for until your next rahennfrist.
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Re: Contract ending and RAV

OK - so I tried to understand the rahemnfrist thing from the literature but have failed if you can shed any light on this then I will be v. happy
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OK - so I tried to understand the rahemnfrist thing from the literature but have failed if you can shed any light on this then I will be v. happy
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The Rahemnfrist is 2 years from the first day your registered unemployed.
The no of days payout if you have worked for 18 months is 400 days.

If your a high earner you wont receive a payout for upto 25 working days, the RAV can also fine you upto 90 working days if you leave your job for no reason. A 6 day fine is quite common if you have not looked for enough jobs, if there are not enough jobs advertised in CH you must apply elsewhere.

If you work during your rahemnfrist, you can qualify again for unemployment pay after the 2 years is up. It's quite common for contractors to be permanantly in a rahemnfrist, if they work on & off on short contracts.
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Re: Contract ending and RAV

BTW if your ski instructor earnings were paid as an employee, that will also be taken into account when calculating your last 12 months earnings.
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