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Old 24.04.2012, 17:34
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Re: Salary for Geneva

Hi OP, I'm not trying to put you off but a net salary of chf 4500 in geneva as an expat with a daughter who needs childcare will mean your life style will not be as good as in germany
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This is roughly my net take home pay in Germany currently, and I know Geneva is a whole lot more expensive, plus this job does not offer some key benefits that I get currently.
You never mentioned what benefits you are getting now, but either way - this looks like a large downgrade.
With 4500 EUR net in Germany you are likely quite high up the ladder. In Geneva this amount would put you below average (mind you, ~2000EUR is considered poverty level in this country, and not without a reason!).
If on top of that you have a family to support I'd say - don't do it.

Oh and one more thing - if you are a resident in Switzerland you must have a Swiss insurance and your wife's policy would not apply. Also you will not be allowed to drive a foreign registered car for longer than one year which is another thing you might want to consider.
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Re: Salary for Geneva

Like other posters have said, there is a quality of life issue here. I don't want to get in the typical forum fight of what is or isn't a living wage, plenty of people do it in Geneva but 5000 CHF doesn't get you very far (I lived on it as a couple with no kids but it wasn't fun and I had to be careful), whereas in Germany 4500 euros is an extremely comfortable salary IME. In other words, without getting into "can you do this"- it is doable- but you will have a much lower standard of living, which for me is harder to digest than the "does this work in Geneva or not". But if you think the opportunity is worth taking a major cut in quality of life, then hey...

Another question of mine is does your potential employer know your current salary? Because I would be surprised that they even made an offer than low knowing what you currently make. I would be wary. I was actually turned down for a job once here because they knew the salary was really too low compared to my past salary- that is what honest employers do.
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Re: Salary for Geneva

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Housing-apartment: someone mentioned here that apartment in Geneva would go from CHF 2500 and up, this is quite high, and I just wanted to ask if this would an average cost, or more toward the upper end?.
Yes, for 3 persons, expect 2500 and up

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Housing-share room: could someone give me a rough estimate for cost of monthly room rent(for single person) in shared apartment?.
I don't think any room share would be appropriate for a family. Only single person, likely around 1000 chf per month.

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Childcare: I have a daughter who is almost 4.5 , can someone give me a estimate day care cost per month/year? I am an EU national BTW, and I don't know if that would mean something in terms of some reduced rate for childcare? Also, I don't when when does school age being in Geneva, I suppose elementary education is free of charge, can someone confirm?.
Children start school in Geneva at 4, so full time daycare would not be necessary. But if in the public school, the schedule and hours are not amenable to working parents, so one parent would have to be at home full time to accomodate the school schedule. Public schools are free, but children come home for lunch for about 2 hrs., and some have erratic schedules esp. in the first two years, including no school on Weds. in Geneva although this is chaning to half days on Weds., but I don't believe they've announced the implementation date yet.


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Health insurance: The pay offer does not include health insurance. But my wife has international coverage policy and I can be included under her policy. another option is that I move to Geneva by my self for some period to test the water.
I believe you will be required to have swiss insurance unless fall under some of the exceptions (ie. interns), which does not seem to be the case.

In essence, I believe you are much better off in Germany and may want to really do some hard thinking if it is worth coming here. ie. are they paying your relocaiton expenses, and hiring a relocation specialist to find you an apt?, if not it will be very difficult to find any type of housing.
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