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Salary comparisons information

This is a link to the Swiss statistical site which gives ballpark figures for various salaries. Unfortunately, it seems only to be available for 2003-4, but it may prove a useful guide as a starting point.

http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/e...inleitung.html

I hope I'm in the right forum, but navigation was never my strongest point, so please no slap ! Just shuffle me off !

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Re: Salary comparisons information

Hi. The link doesn't seem to work. Maybe it's just me?
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Thats right. It is just you that doesn't seem to work.

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I've tried replying but it keeps logging me out ! Please be patient while I have another go
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Re: Salary comparisons information

I don't understand why the link won't work as it's the address copied from my address bar ( it was shortened, but not by me )
The address in full is :
http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/e...inleitung.html

The web page is the Swiss Federal Statistical Office > Topics> Employment and Income> Wages and income from employment>Indicators> Introduction

Maybe, if the address doesn't work, googling the SFS will get you to the site and relevant pages. Sorry I can't be more help ( it's frustrating for me too !!) but I'm a computer dunce !
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Re: Salary comparisons information

It's done it again ! after portal insert/en/index/themen/03/04/blank/key/einleitung.html
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it is fixed. Now do stop breaking things.
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It's done it again ! after portal insert/en/index/themen/03/04/blank/key/einleitung.html
Your link has an /eng/index instead of /en/index... -> perhaps that's why it was broken.
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Re: Salary comparisons information

Thank you, axelino. I don't know how that happened - Sorry, just put it down to my general incompetence.The FIRST link is working now, I think, but not the second ! I think I'll go and have a lie down.
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See link today on Swiss Info

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/front/de...rss=true&ty=st
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Re: Salary comparisons information

Hi Guys,

I don’t want to start another thread on a “what am I worth?” topic. As we all know, every employment situation and person has unique characteristics. That being said, if anyone here has some perspective on my situation, I’d love to hear your thoughts.

I’ve been verbally offered a position in Stans, Nidwalden with a Swiss manufacturing company. The gross salary hinted at was 88k to 91k plus a performance bonus which historically has been about 7k (1 month’s salary).

Our family consist of my wife and myself and we do not plan to have any have children for the next few years or at least while we’re in Switzerland.

I’ve read just about every post on this site concerning salary and most of them focus on folks with an IT or Banking background living in Zurich, Geneva, Zug, ect. Nothing wrong with that, mind you. You guys with the 50 pound brains or the ones who administer hedge funds will inherit the earth for sure. But that is simply not my background, and I do not see how I can compare your earning capacity to mine.

We’ve lived in Stuttgart and the Hague for the past three and a half years, so we know what to expect in terms of cost of living in the euro zone even though we’re from the US.

My current net salary is 45k euro, and I can tell you it doesn’t go far here in the Hague. For example, 22k goes to rent and we are not living large by any means. The only kicker is that I do not pay NL income tax because I work for an international organization.

Our motivation to move to Switzerland is not entirely financial, because as you can see the margin is too slim to really make much of a difference. I am motivated by the idea of joining a private enterprise in a business that matches my background and interest. My wife is motivated to attend graduate school. We are both motivated by the improved quality of life that Switzerland seems to have over NL.

So, my question is; in general financial terms, do you think we’ll be better off living and working in Switzerland (Stans area)? I am 31 with a BS and have been working as a logistics manager for about 4 years now. My employment history has been entirely with government and not for profit organizations. Of course I have other questions, but for now, this is my biggest concern.

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Old 26.05.2008, 19:16
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Re: Salary comparisons information

hhhmmmmmm.......88k + 7k = ..........well,I think you really have to consider the fact that your only making 88k +,but what the heck,go for it.
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So, my question is; in general financial terms, do you think we’ll be better off living and working in Switzerland (Stans area)? I am 31 with a BS and have been working as a logistics manager for about 4 years now.
Much will depend on the tax level in your Canton. 90k Swiss in a "cheap" Canton will probably take you a ways if you don't go out much. I think net EUR45k (roughly CHF70k) in the Hague will be equivalent to your net in Swissies in terms of purchasing power although there are any number of ways to slice that one. Which part of the "better standard of living" are you referring to in Switzerland? I lived in Munich for 5 + years and there are plenty of things here that are worse/better than in Germany, Canada, or the US - pretty tough to say that Switzerland is "better".

Just to sum up, 90k in Zurich (for example), with an apartment in Zurich and a partner to support, would be very tough.
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Re: Salary comparisons information

Madkap & Ratbert,

First off, thanks for your 2 cents worth. I know the term “better off” is ambiguous at best. As Ratbert rightly points out, the cost of living compared to NL is probably a wash depending on how you live. For sure nobody will confuse Stans with Zurich in terms of housing and amenities. What we’ve seen so far indicates we can cut our housing cost in half compared to the Hague.

We did take note of prices in the grocery and other consumer areas and overall we did not see an appreciable difference. Eating out…forget it. We don’t eat out here either (75 euro for an exotic Mexican meal!).

Concerning the salary, what percentage of the amount on the table is considered in play for negotiation in light of Swiss sensibilities?
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Re: Salary comparisons information

I found the thread, "Negotiation of salary/Swiss mentality", on this forum. It addresses many of my questions on negotiations and so forth.

Anyway, Smokey & the Bandit II just came on and I have to go.

Good night and see you guys later!
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I’ve been verbally offered a position in Stans, Nidwalden with a Swiss manufacturing company. The gross salary hinted at was 88k to 91k plus a performance bonus which historically has been about 7k (1 month’s salary).
Stans is really a nice area, I spent some time at the hospital there, damned snowboarding...
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Re: Salary comparisons information

Hi Guys,

Finally I received the offer letter last week. Too bad, it listed 6800 CHF (the lowest end of the alluded to salary range). The company rep says that it is a very good salary by their standards (canton or company I wonder).

Just by chance, I got another offer yesterday from the Feds as a Strategic Planner in Alaska (87000/yr + the raft of benefits they offer). I applied and interviewed back in March and gave up when the trail went cold. When it rains it pours I guess.

Anyway, I made a counter offer but I really don't see how we're going to live on this no matter how cheap the canton is. I have to wonder why the Swiss are so chincy when it comes to benefits. No medical, dental, tuition assistance, or flextime? If they would sweeten the pot with some benefits, then maybe we could focus on something besides the salary.

AK vs CH? How do you reconcile that one?

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Finally I received the offer letter last week. Too bad, it listed 6800 CHF (the lowest end of the alluded to salary range). The company rep says that it is a very good salary by their standards (canton or company I wonder).

Just by chance, I got another offer yesterday from the Feds as a Strategic Planner in Alaska (87000/yr + the raft of benefits they offer). I applied and interviewed back in March and gave up when the trail went cold. When it rains it pours I guess.
Dont forget to compare *after* tax amounts, you're take home with 6800 would be about 5500Fr (including pension fund, unemployment etc.). Also as far as I've heard alaska doesn't cost less than CH...
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I found the thread, "Negotiation of salary/Swiss mentality", on this forum. It addresses many of my questions on negotiations and so forth.

Anyway, Smokey & the Bandit II just came on and I have to go.

Good night and see you guys later!

Saratoga - I tried searching for that thread you mentioned and couldn't find it.
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Re: Salary comparisons information

Hi,

Here is some statistical data on income by month by canton.
http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/e...ent.107701.pdf

But here is a breakdown of income in Switzerland ( Median Monthly salary 2006)

Class A (highest level ) -10463
Class B( Second highest level) -6796
Median salary (job class not defined) - 5674

Percentages: 60.2% of swiss workers make less than 78000 CHF per annum, 27.4% made over 78,000 CHF per annum and 12.4% did not provide any information about salary.

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