Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Employment  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 18.07.2012, 11:06
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: ZH
Posts: 61
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 27 Times in 17 Posts
cokekarl has made some interesting contributions
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Quick question,

Is it necessary to include a photo on the CV? It feels just so wrong. What has the looks of a person got to the with a non-modelling job?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 18.07.2012, 16:00
singabhadur's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: For now in Bern :)
Posts: 163
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 198 Times in 52 Posts
singabhadur has an excellent reputationsingabhadur has an excellent reputationsingabhadur has an excellent reputationsingabhadur has an excellent reputation
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Quote:
View Post
Quick question,

Is it necessary to include a photo on the CV? It feels just so wrong. What has the looks of a person got to the with a non-modelling job?
I use to feel the same. However, after spending some time with google and talking to many people, including HR managers, employment agencies and friends, it seems that in Switzerland, it is appreciated if you do attach a picture.

I believe, it is personal choice in the end. I have also come across people who have gotten an interview call without a photo in their CV.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 18.07.2012, 16:07
liajoe's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 49
Groaned at 3 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts
liajoe is considered knowledgeableliajoe is considered knowledgeableliajoe is considered knowledgeable
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Quote:
View Post
Thank you so much for these awesome posts. Very clear explanation! (for some reasons I can't explain I can't leave a "Thanks" mark.)
I can't leave a Thanks mark either
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 18.07.2012, 16:09
liajoe's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 49
Groaned at 3 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts
liajoe is considered knowledgeableliajoe is considered knowledgeableliajoe is considered knowledgeable
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Quote:
View Post
Dear All,

This forum has been helpful to me in more ways than I can imagine. Most of the people here are helpful, nice and funny

I have been searching 120 % since September last year and was full time unemployed since January this year. It has been a difficult, no doubt. However, EF helped me a lot.

I just want to provide some info for English Job Hunting EFer's out here.

Most of the info might be found on other thread. But I am just going to mention all my research here which might be helpful.

Here are a few pointers which helped me to stay on the track of finding a job.

1. I maintained an excel sheet with dates. Each day I search for anywhere between 5 to 10 companies and applied for jobs which appealed to me.

2. If you have about 120 odd companies or website to search. You can finish 1 round of research, say about in 3 weeks or so. After that you start all over again, just to see if any new jobs were added or not. This excel sheet kept me in line and made me periodically check websites for jobs.

3. Try to enroll/subscribe yourself on the website to receive email alerts whenever a job is added. This keeps you in check and makes you apply for that job when HR is expecting interviews. At times candidates are selected well before the expiration date and such alerts help you from missing out on a job.

4. Whenever you apply for a job, on another page or excel sheet or which ever tool you are using, make a note of the position, name of HR contact. Try to call them 1 week after you have applied and introduce yourself. Make sure to mention politely that you are not pushing them, but rather trying to let them know if there is anything else you can do apart from submitting CV, Cover Letter and the Transcripts. Most of the time, they say they don't need anything, but I think this makes an impression. Try calling anywhere between 8.30 to 10.00 so that you catch them before they go to some meeting/interviews.

5. This might sound stupid, but even if the job advert says, fluent german. And yet you match the job description, try to apply for the job. At times they do call for an interview if you are an excellent candidate. BTW, the job I got now, did mention they needed fluent german. And my german is 4 out of 10. Yet I have the job offer, when the other guy was fluent only coz I had the relevant experience and did well in the interview.

6. Make sure you make edit your cover letter according to the job description. Don't lie, however, notice what is needed specifically for that job and highlight those in your letter. It gives an impression to the HR that you are willing to take some effort for this post, and ur not just applying in bulk.

7. There will be days when you will REALLY hate to be in the situation. At those times, just get our of the routine. Take every sunday off and reward yourself with some off days in between if you feel down. However, consistency, discipline and hope will surely get you through. My butter half ( yup, I mean bUtter )did keep me company during my bad days, and motivated me at times being my sports partner or chess buddy. Try to find something which will get you out of that mood. What works for me is talking to people close to me and sharing a laugh or two. . Remember, even if you have hit rock bottom and your are doing ALL that you can, then you WILL rise

I hope this helps some1 out there.

P.S Kindly take a note, that all that I have mentioned above is from my prespective. Please use any other means necessary to get a job, if you think what I mentioned is incorrect.

I wish all the best for my fellow job hunters.

Cheers
Thank you very much for this wonderful post
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 18.07.2012, 22:44
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: zentral
Posts: 10
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
hdybe has no particular reputation at present
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Thanks for sharing this info.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 18.08.2012, 12:22
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bern
Posts: 43
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Gerry's Holly :) has earned some respectGerry's Holly :) has earned some respect
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Amazing thread

Kudos on your new job good luck
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 20.08.2012, 21:35
Ich's Avatar
Ich Ich is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: EU
Posts: 61
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 17 Times in 10 Posts
Ich has no particular reputation at present
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

This thread has been very helpful. Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 20.08.2012, 22:05
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 1
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post
bgdn0000 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Great thread! Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 13.09.2012, 11:52
venice's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: zurich
Posts: 706
Groaned at 11 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 688 Times in 353 Posts
venice has a reputation beyond reputevenice has a reputation beyond reputevenice has a reputation beyond reputevenice has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

not sure if the job ads (in english, so obviously open to non-swiss) in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung have already been mentioned as a source, but I find them very interesting for higher positions:

http://www.nzzexecutive.ch/channel/12/jobs-in-english
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 24.09.2012, 11:17
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: zurich
Posts: 4
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rimhen has no particular reputation at present
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

@singabhadur
Thank you so much for taking the time to share these very valuable tips. I just started looking for a job in Zurich and I don't speak German.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 26.09.2012, 17:23
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 5
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
AR27 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Singabhadur,

Just when my motivation levels were at an all time low, and I felt like giving up on the job search, I read your post. Just wanted to thank you for all the information.

I've started a new approach to the search, got a spreadsheet up and running and ready to make this happen.

A trick that helps keep me motivated is to get out of the house as much as possible. Finding cafes and restaurants with wifi so I can try out a new place to eat and do the job search at the same time; a sunny terrace or a lovely cafe is much more motivating.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06.10.2012, 05:32
akaijer's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Basel
Posts: 38
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts
akaijer has earned some respectakaijer has earned some respect
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Thank you so much for your thread! You are my idol! I am just new in this forum so i have no idea how to thank a post )))) I am also doing job hunting, and got depressed, but I see that I am doing nothing compare to you. You did like 120%, I do like...80% anyway, you made my day :X
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 12.10.2012, 16:25
jeeta's Avatar
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: in Zurich since 01.01.2012
Posts: 12
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
jeeta has no particular reputation at present
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

@singabhadur
Thanks for posting.Very helpful :-)
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 19.12.2012, 12:01
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bern
Posts: 43
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Gerry's Holly :) has earned some respectGerry's Holly :) has earned some respect
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Quote:
View Post
Thank you so much for your thread! You are my idol! I am just new in this forum so i have no idea how to thank a post )))) I am also doing job hunting, and got depressed, but I see that I am doing nothing compare to you. You did like 120%, I do like...80% anyway, you made my day :X
I agree. There are times when I was low.

All I did was read this thread. And it made me realize there is so much more I can do.

I did get a job and cant wait to join in Feb.

Thanks again Singabhadur.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 19.12.2012, 12:37
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bern
Posts: 43
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Gerry's Holly :) has earned some respectGerry's Holly :) has earned some respect
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Mods, why cant I leave a thank you.

why cant i give rep points

Just wondering
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 20.12.2012, 10:25
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Bern
Posts: 43
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 21 Times in 9 Posts
Gerry's Holly :) has earned some respectGerry's Holly :) has earned some respect
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Sorry posted here by mistake. I wanted to post in another thread. My bad.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 20.12.2012, 11:14
Karl's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Here
Posts: 1,964
Groaned at 193 Times in 88 Posts
Thanked 2,884 Times in 932 Posts
Karl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond reputeKarl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

If you'd like to read about my experience of 118 days looking for work in Switzerland, read here..

Out of work for 37 days now....scarey

Now that was 4 years ago, and I am still with the same company. But re-reading that thread brings back some pretty intense memories...
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Karl for this useful post:
  #38  
Old 20.12.2012, 11:58
slammer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lummerland
Posts: 5,210
Groaned at 135 Times in 94 Posts
Thanked 8,971 Times in 3,393 Posts
slammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Been unemployed since May and my fazit:
1. plenty of work out there, however being over 50 sucks.
2. "Wanna go freelance?"
"Yes"
"Great, here sign this exclusive contract"
"Ok, however I wanna garantee for so and so much work per month"
"Sorry no can do"
3. Companies want a 30 year old with 20 years experience and who is happy with a "attaboy.
4. At least in my profession, switzerland is wasteland.
5. Flexability, being open minded and the willingness to try something differnt, dosn´t count a bean.
6. No government approved papers stamped in triplicate that state you are capable and sound of mind enough wire a plug and you have no chance to get a job wiring fruking plugs.
7. So now I am depressed, fed up and disgusted by the way things have turned out.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank slammer for this useful post:
  #39  
Old 20.12.2012, 12:18
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 195
Groaned at 50 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 105 Times in 74 Posts
stevesim is considered unworthystevesim is considered unworthystevesim is considered unworthy
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

Slammer, so sorry about how things turned out.

Can you perhaps try in Germany? in some sectors, they are booming and don't care so much about age.

I believe that everyone goes through these periods and it has nothing to do with you. I also worry about the age thing but I know that I will be gone from here before that is a problem.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank stevesim for this useful post:
  #40  
Old 20.12.2012, 12:23
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 195
Groaned at 50 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 105 Times in 74 Posts
stevesim is considered unworthystevesim is considered unworthystevesim is considered unworthy
Re: Info helpful for your Job Search - My way of giving back :)

I should tell you about my experience - I had an interview to become a director of a department of a private bank but stupidly told the headhunter that I did not include all of my experience on my cv as it was not relevant.

I got the job as a temp but then argued with the headhunter about my compensation, and suddenly, the job became a permanent job and I was too old for it, although they didn't know my age - the headhunter thought he might make more of a profit with someone else. The guy who was hiring was a very good friend of his, by the way.

He also thought he might be able to peddle my cv to other people!!

I don't know if I am allowed to name him or his company here. He is in Lausanne and is swiss Romand.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank stevesim for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tips on Giving Back Your House or Flat Mrs. Doolittle Housing in general 58 30.07.2013 13:26
Seeking advice--LLM helpful to job search as an attorney? saraTG Employment 12 08.04.2013 18:39
Quitting your job for taking care of your kids? Züricher Family matters/health 36 17.03.2012 01:13
Californians in CH - proper way of giving up residency in CA? zufimufi Finance/banking/taxation 10 25.03.2010 06:45
Looking for a job (by way of a change) sarac Employment 0 11.11.2007 15:45


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:12.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0