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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

the children garden is bilingual so I must speak to the kids in english .
Problem is that the rest of the team or dont speak it or the level is so poor.. and the information doesnt get to me like it should be. Easier to send me cleaning or cooking for them I think so
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

Carla, 15 days is not a long time. Like the others here have said - just do the "right" thing. And then you will have no regrets in the future. You don`t want to have anything negative on your work reference.
Be better than them. And then after the 15 days you find a job that you really like, and people who appreciate and help you to succeed in your career.
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I think most of the moms on this forum can tell you - taking care of kids can and often does involve cooking and cleaning up the whole day...
I dont think cleaning up the whole children garden and cooking for my team too is part of my job
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

Once again I didn't get it. Are you telling us you are a kindergarten (Swiss style) teacher with the appropriate diploma and they make you clean and cook or are you a help in a kinderkrippe?
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

I am an internship, in the interview they told me I was going to be teacher , I understand that not having a diploma makes a big difference and I need to help more , but they didnt tell me I had to be cleaning , cause they don have a cleaning lady and pass the day in the kitchen cooking cause we dont have a cooking lady,for the whole centre, if I knew that I dont sign anything .
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I dont think cleaning up the whole children garden and cooking for my team too is part of my job
You can call it a kindergarten, I think that makes more sense to most of us on here compared to a children garden. So, how is it a bilingual kindergarten if the other staff doesn't speak English (assuming the 2 languages are are German and English)? Doesn't seem ideal, but sometimes we have to suck it up and finish things out.

I bet most of us have done things that we didn't consider part of the job because we were asked to. As others have said, talk to them, tell them you are unhappy about the amount of cooking and cleaning and if they won't change it, then you are giving notice. Maybe they will let you leave before the end of the 15 days.
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

I know there are some stuff I need to do for help and I understand it.

But if I am in a job where I am not going to do what they told me I dont really want it, is the first time I want really to leave a job straight away, I am very flexible person and I dont give any problems, but these last 2 weeks have been really too much for me, they even make me cook in my free time and once or twice a week I have meetings in the evening, wich means if I finish my job exhausted at 17 I need to come back at 19 until 22 o clock for a meeting in german that I dont even understand and they translate extremely bad to me..
I think I have lots of reasons for leaving this job.
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I am an internship, in the interview they told me I was going to be teacher , I understand that not having a diploma makes a big difference and I need to help more , but they didnt tell me I had to be cleaning , cause they don have a cleaning lady and pass the day in the kitchen cooking cause we dont have a cooking lady,for the whole centre, if I knew that I dont sign anything .
Is it a kindergarten / kinderkrippe with centres all over Zurich/Basel/Zug, etc? If so, they will have a central management office which you should contact and make your concerns heard.

If you don't get anywhere with the management, I would start looking around for somewhere else. There are a lot of these private daycares which are absolutely awful to their staff (I think the majority are great and offer good careers to their employees but there are always going to be not-so-great employers).
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Is it a kindergarten / kinderkrippe with centres all over Zurich/Basel/Zug, etc? If so, they will have a central management office which you should contact and make your concerns heard.

If you don't get anywhere with the management, I would start looking around for somewhere else. There are a lot of these private daycares which are absolutely awful to their staff (I think the majority are great and offer good careers to their employees but there are always going to be not-so-great employers).
thats a good idea thanks!
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I know there are some stuff I need to do for help and I understand it.

But if I am in a job where I am not going to do what they told me I dont really want it, is the first time I want really to leave a job straight away, I am very flexible person and I dont give any problems, but these last 2 weeks have been really too much for me, they even make me cook in my free time and once or twice a week I have meetings in the evening, wich means if I finish my job exhausted at 17 I need to come back at 19 until 22 o clock for a meeting in german that I dont even understand and they translate extremely bad to me..
I think I have lots of reasons for leaving this job.
Good luck - I wish you well. I don't mean to come off sounding critical...sorry if I have been. Don't see how they can make/expect you to cook in your free time! Hope you can find a solution...
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

I second what Dr Mom just said and also agree with the poster that recommended staying where you are until you find something new, even if it is not ideal.

I am not sure how long you've been in CH or what your financial commitments are. Are you eligible for unemployment benefits when you quit? Is it something your employer could protest since you only worked there for two weeks? I don't know those answers, just throwing out some thoughts.

I hope you are able to find something more suitable quickly.
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

I am 6 weeks in Switzerland but I came because my boyfriend got a job
( with the salary I am earning there I cannot even pay a rent)
In my contract only stays like I need to give 15 days for leaving the job, nothing else.
I dont think they would do anything against me cause I am still within the 3 months period, and I think they have no problem in finding someone else for clean and cook , mostly with my contract that I am just an internship.
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

An intern usually spends their internship trying out many areas of the business. Could it be that they've started you off with cleaning & cooking as your first rotation and then will move onto another task? You really need to discuss this with your manager - could you borrow a German-speaking friend to help you in the meeting?
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

The cooking lady is not even hired (all the kindergarten of this company normally have) and until February is not a cleaning lady coming .. and if I am honnest I dont think they are going to put the teachers to clean ..
Is really annyogin me cause this havent been told in the interview to me.
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

The best thing is to go to management and complain. There are actually extremely tight regulations regarding cooking and food-handling, and health services will inspect the premises. If you don't have even basic training in food handling (how to store food correctly, cook properly and reheat food to the right temperatures) then you're the wrong person for the job.

Interns do a lot of cleaning in childcare centres, that's for sure, but if they employed you to work with the children...

However, a 'teacher' does have to have a 3-4 year educational qualificiation - a degree or a diploma in early childhood - you can only work as a 'practicant' for up to 12 months...and the salary also depends on the age of the employee, but if you are over 21, then as a practicant you might be paid 1500-2000 per month, 1000 is the base minimum.

Either way, you have to confront management - tell them that you aren't happy with the job, and either they change your job in some ways, or you give notice. I think within the probation period the 15 day notice period might be even lower.

Oh, and do you have your working hours written on your contract ? If so, then any additional hour over that should be off-set by either more pay, or by time off. Do you have a timesheet where you write your working hours ?
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Re: leaving job without giving 15 days

thank you very much for the information.
I will let them know my thoughts and go for something better, because I dont think this is really normal, I have no idea of cooking and they make you cook, I find no sense to this.

Im gettin paid a little bit less than the salaries u said and cause my contract hours are 44 but we are making 40 I cannot put anything as extra hours!

The main problem is the information doesnt get to me properly and I cannot understand exactly what they are saying to me in the team cause the english is so poor, and I think comunication is BASIC.
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