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Hi, I see many adds for Administration jobs or Customer Service jobs where SAP is requested but I don't how to use and I want to learn.
I am wondering if a company would accept me as a volunteer to help with administration tasks and in exchange they would train me.

Am I dreaming or do you think I have a chance if I contact the HR of some companies to be taken?

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Old 19.09.2012, 19:16
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Its innovative and I admire your resolve and initiative - that alone might get you the job

Although personally I wouldn't employ you for that....imagine if you will...

The Boss - "Hey Caviarchips - why did our factory run out of widgets and our delivery trucks go out empty?"

Me - "Well, Boss, its a funny story, you'll laugh. We got this letter from somebody who said she'd work on our systems for no pay because she's never used them before....."
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Old 19.09.2012, 19:20
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Re: Learning SAP

Well... so I'm a dreamer :-(
I made a quick search on the forum, that I should have done before but it seems that training on SAP in Zurich are done in German, someboday said it is also done in English so I'm going to check the links out but it's very expensive! around 8000chf!! My Godness! So, my post is still on and if someone has another idea, please, share it! Thanks
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Well... so I'm a dreamer :-(
Not at all - go for it! I wasn't attempting to dissuade you, just explain that some people may be nervous. But your interesting approach might just get you through the door, and then you may not be doing it for no money!

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Old 19.09.2012, 19:24
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Re: Learning SAP

oh and when I say I would volunteer, I wouldn't work on something I have never used before of course, I would rather do filling, photocopying, archiving, typing letters, proofreading, dispatch mails etc...just to be trained on something that would help me to get a decent job!
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Re: Learning SAP

What type of admin? There are many flavours of SAP and the only thing they have in common is that they will have been badly implemented.

have you considered a career sandpapering your eyeballs as potentially more fulfilling than being paid to use SAP?
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Go to Singapore. The training is in English, and even including flights and accomodation it's cheaper than in the UK or here.
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Re: Learning SAP

I studied Human Resources but never used SAP before. When I came to Switzerland and started looking for a job, I also thought it would be a good idea to do a SAP course, but as you said, not only most courses are in German, but it also costs a fortune. After finding that out, I thought about it and came to the conclusion that if my profile matches 80% - 90% with the hiring requirements, then it will not be so important whether I know how to use SAP or not. I don't think it's so hard to learn it and it's possible to do it at work (on the job training).
So don't worry too much about it and focus your energies in other areas such as languages (that's what I'm doing right now: working on my german

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Re: Learning SAP

Thanks Samita. I am taking German conversation with a one to one teacher so hopefully by next year I should be more fluent and hopefully that will help me to find a job.
I agree with you, I am sure I would learn SAP quite fast I think as I have always been trained on the system the company I worked for was using and I never had any problem getting it right quickly. I just need to find THE company who will give me this opportunity again!

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Re: Learning SAP

There are different modules in SAP and if you are going to learn you would need to learn the specific one.

As an accountant I need to know the finance and controlling modules (even though I use others), as a customer service person you would need to use Sales modules.

I agree that if you have the right skills and experience not having used SAP should not be a major detriment. Its just another software program that works pretty much the same as other main ERP systems and each company will have slight nuances in the way they have set it up.

Dropping 8k on a course won't improve your job prospects.

If you can find an internship type role I think you would have more chance of a job because one becomes available and you have proven to do a good job rather than because you would now know how to use SAP.
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Re: Learning SAP

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Hi, I see many adds for Administration jobs or Customer Service jobs where SAP is requested but I don't how to use and I want to learn.
I am wondering if a company would accept me as a volunteer to help with administration tasks and in exchange they would train me.

Am I dreaming or do you think I have a chance if I contact the HR of some companies to be taken?

Lola
If you go back in time 10-15 years you have a chance.

Nowadays companies can hire easily skilled people, so why waste time and money to train newbies. Since 1st June 2004...
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Re: Learning SAP

I remember seeing job ads for juniors. I think you have better chances at a consulting company. Especially the ones which work with large teams.
They can use someone with zero or little knowledge in a project, there is know how there, they have got internal courses.

Being an SAP consultant is not only ticking off check boxes but knowing the business, effects, possible dead ends, etc.
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Re: Learning SAP

Do you have a college degree or other similar education?

I must say that not having German will not make it easier.
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If you go back in time 10-15 years you have a chance.

Nowadays companies can hire easily skilled people, so why waste time and money to train newbies. Since 1st June 2004...

I know, it's scary!
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Re: Learning SAP

I overheard a friend who works with SAP saying that unless you are actually doing the work, it is hard to pick it up. Though, I'm sure a course would help some.
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Do you have a college degree or other similar education?

I must say that not having German will not make it easier.
Yes, I have the bacchalaureat in Administration and lots of years of experience on working on databases. And as I said I am learning German so hopefully that will help to open more doors...

Thanks everybody for your comments, I will think about what to do next.
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Re: Learning SAP

There are still plenty of companies that work with SAP and where SAP knowledge is not a prerequisite.

If you have the business knowledge and you have an end user role, you can learn it on the job.

If you would like to do SAP consulting, you should indeed find a starter position in a consulting company.
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