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Re: I've been misled :(

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Whilst I sympathize with your situation, I do so dislike it when anyone attempts to tell others not to respond on what they perceive to be their threads unless the comments are what they want/like.

Like it or not, this IS an O.P.E.N forum and we each of us have to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth when it comes to comments from others. If you don't want or can't face possible negative responses, then best not to post at all in my book. It's really no different from face-to-face interactions where some will agree or disagree with what we say, as the case may be...
That's why he also has the right to tell people who just make simple Irony on other's misfortune to keep them for themselves..if it's an open forum,then it's open both ways....I agree with him,by the way,asking for helpful opinions and getting ironic useless answers by probably bored people who just"need" to say something is at least irritating....
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Old 18.10.2012, 00:18
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Re: I've been misled :(

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Unemployment, NOT social security (that's only for retirement)!

12 months, but that takes into account that which you've paid in other countries (normally).

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Exaclty, I meant unemployment. One year... OK, I can breathe.

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Re: I've been misled :(

I'm sorry to hear about your situation and hope you'll find the necessary strength and resolve to successfully overcome it.

I was in a similar situation a few years back and as somebody mentioned above the positive attitude kept me afloat. Really. That was the bit which made the difference and kept my name out of the black list

Best of luck mate!
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Dear all,

I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
I took a job with a Swiss Zug based company earlier this year....the job was sold to me with the promise of great responsibilities and projects.
The day I joined the company, the CEO got fired and the whole company strategy got canned.

During the last 7 months, I've had a succession of line managers, who have in each instance been Fired.
My job role is completely devalued and has absolutely nothing to do with what was promised, and I'm now surrounded by a rapidly shrinking workforce as our company downsizes....I fear that I could be next.

My situation is:
* I was misled about the role I took.
* The people involved in hiring me are no longer employed here (including HR)
* I relocated my whole family from the UK at great cost to take this position
* I only have 7 months employment in CH....so no access to Swiss Social Security.
* My apartment rental period is fixed for 12 months (Expiring in March)
* I can't afford to relocate my family back to the UK.

I'm not the only expat in this situation, a number of us are in the same position.....I'm now open minded about launching a Class Action to get some sort of compensation.
Is there anyone out there who can help or advise? I know nothing about the Swiss legal system.

With thanks.
JM
i'm sorry to hear that...i've got no useful advice other than:if you don't have any declarations of the benefits you should have received"in written form",then you better focus on the seacrh for a new job...for what i've seen,they here are very"paper and documents"orientated,so a legal action would just be a waste of time..and money..anyway I wish all the best to you and your family for a good resolution!
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Old 18.10.2012, 14:08
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That's why he also has the right to tell people who just make simple Irony on other's misfortune to keep them for themselves..if it's an open forum,then it's open both ways....I agree with him,by the way,asking for helpful opinions and getting ironic useless answers by probably bored people who just"need" to say something is at least irritating....
That was never in dispute! At least, not in my book.

By the way, I think that supplanting the word "ironic" with "sarcastic" in your comment conveys the overall meaning much better.

Now back on topic...
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Re: I've been misled :(

And yet having a job is better than no job, especially you have a family and relocated your family to CH at a great cost.

Hang in there and best wishes to you. Take care mate!


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Dear all,

I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
I took a job with a Swiss Zug based company earlier this year....the job was sold to me with the promise of great responsibilities and projects.
The day I joined the company, the CEO got fired and the whole company strategy got canned.

During the last 7 months, I've had a succession of line managers, who have in each instance been Fired.
My job role is completely devalued and has absolutely nothing to do with what was promised, and I'm now surrounded by a rapidly shrinking workforce as our company downsizes....I fear that I could be next.

My situation is:
* I was misled about the role I took.
* The people involved in hiring me are no longer employed here (including HR)
* I relocated my whole family from the UK at great cost to take this position
* I only have 7 months employment in CH....so no access to Swiss Social Security.
* My apartment rental period is fixed for 12 months (Expiring in March)
* I can't afford to relocate my family back to the UK.

I'm not the only expat in this situation, a number of us are in the same position.....I'm now open minded about launching a Class Action to get some sort of compensation.
Is there anyone out there who can help or advise? I know nothing about the Swiss legal system.

With thanks.
JM
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Re: I've been misled :(

In the court of law its not what you know, but what you can prove. And as a few posts above mentions, if you do not have it in writing well then you need to chaulk it up to bad luck.

The good news is you are here, make the most of it. Start sending out CV's night and day, network as much as possible, im sure you'll find something!!

Something very similar to this happened to me about a year ago, I was promised the world in a new position with a company and moved across the country for it, only to be fired while on a business trip in Prague. I ended up running into a very, very good position after being let go from that company and am now with a great company with huge benefits, profit sharing, and a role that I can add to my experience on my resume/CV.

Keep your head up man, it is as it should be.
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Re: I've been misled :(

The best he can EVER hope for is his contractual conditions, ie 1 or 2 months paid notice period and sacked.

No need to take a lawyer to work this out
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Re: I've been misled :(

Things may well have changed since you left even though this is a relatively short time ago. Our son, very well qualified in the Financial Sector, has been looking for a job for a year now : he has had three telephone interviews, one face-to-face interview but is told that "normally" employers need some four interviews with a prospective candidate for the position before they decide. Stay in Zug/Steinhauser - you are probably much, much better off. There are many Forums [Fora?] which also have vacant position advertised, including this one [top middle], as well as WRS classifieds, Glocals, The Local, etc. Good luck!
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Re: I've been misled :(

Well, I don't want to seem to optimistic but you can discuss this with fellow co-workers and find out if there is a legitimate approach to getting some kind of compensation. There might be - Switzerland does have a few representative groups for tenants, employees etc.
It's not that suing is impossible here, you just need to make sure you have a solid case and the funds to fight it. If you have legal costs insurance you could consider it but later: your first priority should be getting job #2 either here or back home in England.

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