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Old 21.10.2012, 20:40
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Windows Server Engineering - What is the market really like?

Hi all,

Bit of a wet finger in the air post this one.

I am mainly a Unix / Shell scripting / Perl kind of chap. Currently on a project for the last couple of years which has been implemented on Windows 2008. The project finally hired in a Windows Server specialist who is currently making a lot of improvements. Finding a Windows Server engineering specialist who is any good proved to be reasonably difficult - surprising given the market conditions in general.

Now I am picking up quite a bit of Windows Server knowledge - system tuning, AD, GPO, IPSec, etc etc just wondering if the market is healthy enough to consider working through the various M$ certifications. An empirical glance at Jobserve et al suggests it is something worth looking at - but would be interested to know from Windows dudes out there if they reckon there is sufficient market out there.

Note I am not interested in a discussion on Operating System X is better than Operating System Y.

I've been in perm employment for the last 7 years or so and am just looking at the options that might take me back to contracting within a couple of years.

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Hi all,

Bit of a wet finger in the air post this one.

I am mainly a Unix / Shell scripting / Perl kind of chap. Currently on a project for the last couple of years which has been implemented on Windows 2008. The project finally hired in a Windows Server specialist who is currently making a lot of improvements. Finding a Windows Server engineering specialist who is any good proved to be reasonably difficult - surprising given the market conditions in general.

Now I am picking up quite a bit of Windows Server knowledge - system tuning, AD, GPO, IPSec, etc etc just wondering if the market is healthy enough to consider working through the various M$ certifications. An empirical glance at Jobserve et al suggests it is something worth looking at - but would be interested to know from Windows dudes out there if they reckon there is sufficient market out there.

Note I am not interested in a discussion on Operating System X is better than Operating System Y.

I've been in perm employment for the last 7 years or so and am just looking at the options that might take me back to contracting within a couple of years.

Cheers,
Nick
Good windows engineers pay well nick, but as an OS is a quite generic skill, it will also be as much about where you've done it, what you engineered etc. people with enterprise experience still hard to come by.
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Re: Windows Server Engineering - What is the market really like?

You're right of course. I think it difficult to find good engineers regardless of skillset. However you are often at the mercy of HR drones and recruitment agents who just match strings on CVs with strings in contract or job requirements.

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You're right of course. I think it difficult to find good engineers regardless of skillset. However you are often at the mercy of HR drones and recruitment agents who just match strings on CVs with strings in contract or job requirements.

Cheers,
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I do think though that for the better renumerated positions, certification is not a major benefit. Experience will count for much more and the exams are generally fairly simple anyway.
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Re: Windows Server Engineering - What is the market really like?

The usual contacts I have received in the past weeks do not paint a pretty picture. Rates have fallen, at least I am starting to get that impression. Regarding Jobserve, my impression was that overall rates are falling as well. SAP Team Lead for laughable rates or tiny 120k pa. I know some companies are blowing the rest of their budget until years end but that's also nothing impressive concerning rates. I have zero idea about the Romandie though, a few months ago they were pumping out really good rates.
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Re: Windows Server Engineering - What is the market really like?

The place I work has hired 2 Windows Engineers this year, both times it was a pain to find someone good. We were not so interested in qualifications, it was all about the experience for us. We were pretty surprised too about how difficult it was but it has been the same for all the positions we have had open this year, has taken several months to fill each of them and for half of them we ended up importing people from abroad.

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Hi all,

Bit of a wet finger in the air post this one.

I am mainly a Unix / Shell scripting / Perl kind of chap. Currently on a project for the last couple of years which has been implemented on Windows 2008. The project finally hired in a Windows Server specialist who is currently making a lot of improvements. Finding a Windows Server engineering specialist who is any good proved to be reasonably difficult - surprising given the market conditions in general.

Now I am picking up quite a bit of Windows Server knowledge - system tuning, AD, GPO, IPSec, etc etc just wondering if the market is healthy enough to consider working through the various M$ certifications. An empirical glance at Jobserve et al suggests it is something worth looking at - but would be interested to know from Windows dudes out there if they reckon there is sufficient market out there.

Note I am not interested in a discussion on Operating System X is better than Operating System Y.

I've been in perm employment for the last 7 years or so and am just looking at the options that might take me back to contracting within a couple of years.

Cheers,
Nick
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