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Old 13.12.2012, 13:33
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ANOBAG and self-employed again...

Hi,

I thought I'd ask EF opinion.

I am a freelance creative (artwork for ads, book covers, fashion prints, textile etc) and my SVA adviser registered me as ANOBAG because most of my jobs I am getting through my agent in the UK. I also get my own jobs when clients approach me directly (mainly USA). For those jobs my SVA guy wants me to be registered as 2nd job self-employed.

So basically they want me to have two accounts: self-employed and ANOBAG. I would prefer to be only self-employed but I need to convince them.

Are there any advantages on being self-employed only?

Or should I just go on with their suggestion and register as self-employed for my personal clients?


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Old 13.12.2012, 14:24
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Suggestions? Yes one, ANOBAG bad! Seriously, ANOBAG baaaad!
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why ANOBAG bad? care to elaborate :-)? thanks.
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why ANOBAG bad? care to elaborate :-)? thanks.
I was ANOBAG for two years couldn't do anything other than pay tax, no access to the social system!
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why ANOBAG bad? care to elaborate :-)? thanks.
Well you pay your own AHV, Arbeitnehmeranteil and your Arbeitgeberanteil and all the other stuff mentioned in the fine print and then some, it can work but only as a (very short) stop gap, I did it for over a year, scratching a meager living and turning every Rappen over twice.
I folded my hand middle of this year and claimed RAV but to do so I had to pay the MoaB to the AHV, now, despite a careful finance plan I have been left with newt, nada, nix.
So before you even buy yourself a beer you had better make sure that you put that money away for MoaB.
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Re: ANOBAG and self-employed again...

Thanks for replies. And when you self-employed who pays "AHV, Arbeitnehmeranteil and your Arbeitgeberanteil and all the other stuff" ?

telandy: What you could not do? what for would you need access to social system? sorry for dumb question :-)

slammer: what is MoaB?

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Sorry, of course, sometimes I forget that some people don't speak Slammer.
MoaB is Mother of all Bills.
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So why do I pay AHV/Iv whatever contributions every three months as ANOBAG if there no social security benefits?

and then also taxes on net income...?

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Update: So i filed all paper work on Dec 31st and today I got a letter stating that I am registered as self-employed. They even backdated self-employment start date - like I asked very happy and celebrating with nice glass of barolo!
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What is ANOBAG?
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Update: So i filed all paper work on Dec 31st and today I got a letter stating that I am registered as self-employed. They even backdated self-employment start date - like I asked very happy and celebrating with nice glass of barolo!
Love to hear the details Blindgirl! What canton and what paperwork?
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Re: ANOBAG and self-employed again...

I would actually like to do the reverse of what BlindGirl has done. I didn't realise when I set up as self-employed that this was really the wrong category, since I'm employed by an overseas company on a contract; for a difference of about 2% I would have access to the full social safety net where now I don't.

Does anyone know how to do this? In Valais, it seems that this type of arrangement is very rare, even the accountants seem not to know what it is.
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