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What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

I am considering a move to CH with my Swiss fiance. We are both fully trained and experienced teachers working in high schools in the UK.

My question is:
Could I ever find a job teaching in international schools in the French part of Switzerland? and
What are the working conditions/salaries/holidays like?

I would be quite happy to teach English (I have a CELTA) in private schools for a year or two or even do private tutoring. I am experienced in both. However, I have already left this career to enter state education as TEFL has limited career/salary/holiday potential.

Is the international school job market extremely competitive? I am an experienced Geography teacher with a proven track-record in motivating and educating young people.

If I could one day be living in Switzerland and working at a good international school in the profession I love it would all be worth it.

Any ideas?
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Old 01.01.2008, 19:34
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

Look at the TES for jobs www.tes.co.uk Region International

There is also job fairs in London in January - http://www.search-associates.net/fai...ry_lon_feb.htm

Jobs get snapped up at these fairs.

Salaries vary on experience but start at around CHF70K
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

You should be able to have a fair chance at a job.
Look into who would want to hire you before you land here though.
Int. schools are all over the place, so you may have some varied options where you can locate to.
Good luck
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You should be able to have a fair chance at a job.
Look into who would want to hire you before you land here though.
Int. schools are all over the place, so you may have some varied options where you can locate to.
Good luck
Nice generic answer there. What exactly do you know about the teaching market?
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Nice generic answer there. What exactly do you know about the teaching market?
Well since I know 3 teachers here and 4 translators, plus do business with 2 International schools and have contacts with ETAS, I would say, A BIT.
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Well since I know 3 teachers here and 4 translators, plus do business with 2 International schools and have contacts with ETAS, I would say, A BIT.
You seem concerned? Does my "other than pc knowledge" suprise you Gooner?
What I think you're doing is using this forum as a marketing strategy answering every post with something as generic and mundane as possible so that you can get you name and avatar out there.

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What I think you're doing is using this forum as a marketing strategy answering every post with something as generic and mundane as possible so that you can get you name and avatar out there.

That is blatant canvassing and I think its days are numbered.
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

I think I'll stay out of that! But thanks for your time anyway.

You say you know some teachers here, were they employed in CH or abroad?

I've been advised to go to International School fairs in the UK, but there would only be one or two schools from the French part of Switzerland that I could apply to present, neither have advertised vacancies - seems like a waste of time and money (£90 for the privelege).

Is it actually possible to enter the international system once inside CH? Or do they just employ direct from the UK? Would time spent away from the UK state sector (teaching English in CH) harm my chances of being employed in the international sector in CH?

Any international school teachers out there?

Thanks again
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Who decides who can or cannot post on a thread? I am not allowed to comment on a public forum?
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Well who is used your pc to make 42 posts in November and 16 through December?

You are correct that there is at present there no rule about avatars and signatures and most people here with a commercial business understand what is regarded as spamming and what isn't. Sadly, it those members who don't get it that are well on their way to getting these rules changed.

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Well who is used your pc to make 42 posts in November and 16 through December?

You are correct that there is at present there no rule about avatars and signatures and most people here with a commercial business understand what is regarded as spamming and what isn't. Sadly, it those members who don't get it that are well on their way to getting these rules changed.

Yes, you are and will be allowed to post on a public forum, but whether you would continue to do so without your company name and link in every post, only time will tell...

... and a Happy New Year to you too.
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Relax a bit and maybe 2008 will open some peoples minds to friendly contacts! I wish I knew as many expats 9 years ago when I came here as I do now.
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You say you know some teachers here, were they employed in CH or abroad?

Employed here and well assembled in various parts of the coutry.
Some are also freelance who run their own business and are doing very well.
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

Back to the subject of teaching!

Do a google search for international schools in the area you want. You should be able to find out from their websites whether they have any vacancies in your subject. You could also email the principals directly to find out about possible vacancies, many will also put you on their supply list if there's not a actual job. The websites should also give you information about the holidays. In my experience the salaries are about the same/ just above the UK and the conditions are similiar to other private schools in the UK.

I know plenty of people who have been employed once they reach Switzerland but it can be a risky strategy, you need a vacancy to arise in your area! If you are serious and want to check out schools try the overseas teacher forum on www.tes.co.uk/staffroom and as telandy said a lot of schools will also advertise with TES.
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Old 02.01.2008, 18:59
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

Best to get a job before coming to CH, that way you are employed on an EXPAT contract, rather than a local one. On an Expat contract a part of the relocation costs will be covered. Try applying to the local schools directly before the job fair. Sending a CV costs nothing.
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

E-TAS website also lists some job openings for English teachers. Have a look!
http://www.e-tas.ch/other/index.asp
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

Hi Mr MTB- You are posting at a great time as this is when the international schools begin sending recruiters/administrators to job fairs all over the world to hire teachers for next year. Most job fairs will be starting in late January and over by March.

As someone who has gone through this process, I recommend:

1. Going to the website of Swiss Group of International Schools and begin targeting the schools you would be interested in. This website is great as it lists the 38 schools that are the members of this organization. These are not all the international schools in Switzerland, just those that are part of this group. Other websites will likely give you a greater listing of schools.

2. After finding the schools you want, check their website to see if they have job openings. Many schools will only list their openings on websites such as Search Associates or the Council of International Schools (COIS). I do not have experience with Search Associates, but on COIS, you can do a search for job vacancies by subject and location.

3. If the school you desire is on COIS, then it may be a good idea to write to the school and suggest your interest in the job. It is really helpful to the school to begin reviewing CVs/resumes before they get to the job fair. This will help you stand out from numerous other applicants for the same position.

If you have an EU passport, then your marketability has increased, as work permits are tougher to come by. Looking at some schools' adverts shows they are looking for EU nationals only.

I cannot comment on your chances on getting on a job, but my biggest advice is to reach out to the school and demonstrate why you would be a good asset to them. Also, check back with the schools because there can be a lot of applications, and current teachers who have decided to commit for next year (2009-2009 school year) may back out in the next few weeks/months due to personal circumstances. Keep at it and good luck!

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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

MTB . heres a link for all of the English schools in Switzerland, hasd a quick look at the International School here in Bern & it seems that they have a couple of positions open :

http://switzerland.english-schools.org/

Good luck in your search.
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

Wow! Great replies, very comforting to hear back so quickly.

If someone could let me know how to 'thank' people (i.e. add extra points to the 'thankometer' at the top of the screen) I would certainly like to thank a few people formally.

I guess I am still apprehensive - going to these International Job Fairs means registering, which for COIS means having a reference from my current Head. Needless to say no-one knows of my intentions as yet and I don't want to say I wish to leave without first knowing there is a place for me in Switzerland to leave to. Can you see my predicament?

Is it REALLY necessary to attend these fairs?

I am very serious about moving to Switzerland, and am equally serious about my career. I am thinking it is probably best to approach schools now and wait for a Geography or EFL job to come up in the International sector, apply for it and see what happens.

Please keep posting if you can add your own experience to this thread.

Cheers!
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

Unfourtunately, that is the downside of attending the job fairs - letting your current school know that you are on the hunt in order to get that letter of recommendation. I detested this at first, but after several years I realized it is only fair that the school should know one is ready to jump ship, so it too can look for a replacement. You are definitely in a tricky spot. If your school has departments run by Head Teachers, you might be able to get a letter from that person instead of the Headmaster/Director. This might keep your search more confidential, if you have a trusting relationship with your Head Teacher.

It is not crucial to go to the job fair, but it definitely does help. I went to the one in London several years ago and it was packed. There were lines 20-25 people deep for schools with excellent reputations. I was lucky to get my job, and I credit it to the fact that I contacted the school in advance, then arranged for a meeting during the job fair. I see that you are in the UK. What you might be able to do is arrange a meeting with a school outside of the job fair when the recruiter/administrator is in London. The school has already paid to attend the fair, so meeting with them in London is certainly to your advantage and is no cost to the school. However, keep in mind that the schools are really busy reading CVs/resumes and conducting interviews. They usually go for 2.5 - 3 days straight interviewing and making contract offers. So they might balk at meeting outside of the fair.

Subject specific teachers such as International Baccalaureate (IB) teachers who have experience in Higher Level subjects in math are readily sought after and hired. If you have experience teaching IB Geography, then your marketability increases further, and you might not need the hiring fair. Add-on certificates or experience in coaching, afterschool programs, special needs, etc, also helps.

I think your strategy of applying and waiting is sound. However, if you can come to Switzerland and arrange meetings, that will help you stand out even further. You will be remembered for going the extra mile.
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

I know plenty of teachers who got jobs without attending job fairs. You do need to contact the schools and establish an email relationship. If you can give them a time you are visiting Switzerland and arrange to visit then this gives you a chance to see if you like it and make sure they know you are available from the summer - of course you also need to make clear that you are moving over in time for the start of next session. Many visits turn into full blown interviews.

As telandy said the downside to this is you will probably end up being a local hire which means you will lose out on all relocation benefits.
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Re: What are the chances of getting a job teaching in an international school?

I found my English teaching job through Select Education which is an English teaching agency. Was give the impression that they don't have many. Worth a look though.
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