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Old 10.06.2013, 05:17
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Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

Many job websites are now offering an option to upload your CV and enter your detailed information so potential employers could find you.

What are your opinions on this? Should I spend some time on it? I've already started, but each one takes a while since much information has to be added manually. Were you ever contacted, and did that lead to at least an interview? If yes, would you be willing to share the website address?

If it helps, I'm most interested in software development, have next to no German language and will have a work permit.

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Old 10.06.2013, 08:28
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

I'd stick with just sending them to companies direct myself. Given how bad automatic recognition/filtering systems can be, your info is likely to be sent out for all sort of jobs you have no interest in.

What do you mean you will have a work permit?
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Old 10.06.2013, 11:41
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

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Many job websites are now offering an option to upload your CV and enter your detailed information so potential employers could find you.

What are your opinions on this? Should I spend some time on it? I've already started, but each one takes a while since much information has to be added manually. Were you ever contacted, and did that lead to at least an interview? If yes, would you be willing to share the website address?

If it helps, I'm most interested in software development, have next to no German language and will have a work permit.

Thank you!
I have got jobs this way in the past using monster.com as headhunters will search for candidates in this way, although for my field this has been somewhat replaced by LinkedIn.

If your German is weak and you are not living in a German speaking country you will need to be proactive as you may not be an obvious candidate for a Swiss company or recruitment agent. Getting your CV on several platforms might be a good idea. I was not approached about Swiss positions until I had already moved from the UK to Germany.

Most websites should allow you to upload so that personal details and your current employer are hidden as you should not disclose this information until you receive an appropriate opportunity and you are interested in sending a full CV.
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Old 11.06.2013, 01:23
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What do you mean you will have a work permit?
I'm married to the EU citizen, so as we understand the process
- we move into Switzerland
- she registers for a work permit
- I now have the right to register for a permit too

We plan to move around late August, but I'm trying to at least have some job 'leads' by this time.
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I'd stick with just sending them to companies direct myself. Given how bad automatic recognition/filtering systems can be, your info is likely to be sent out for all sort of jobs you have no interest in.

What do you mean you will have a work permit?
The problem with this advisüce is that a lot of companies who have the upload option now no longer accept an emailed version and require an upload before they will even consider an application
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I'm married to the EU citizen, so as we understand the process
- we move into Switzerland
- she registers for a work permit
- I now have the right to register for a permit too

We plan to move around late August, but I'm trying to at least have some job 'leads' by this time.
Yes, that is the way it used to work. However, Switzerland has recently introduced quota limits for EU-17 nationals as well so she must have a job offer first. This from the www.bfm.admin.ch website:

"I should like to work in Switzerland. What are the conditions for getting a work permit?

Nationals of an EU-25/EFTA state need a residence permit to be authorized to work in Switzerland; this residence permit doubles as work permit. However, a residence permit will be issued under one of the following conditions only: you already have secured employment, or you meet the requirements that apply if you are not gainfully employed (cf. point 7). Nationals of EU-2 require a separate work permit to work in Switzerland."

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...07.html#a_0007

You can no longer move here, register and then look for work. You must have a firm offer of employment first.

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The problem with this advice is that a lot of companies who have the upload option now no longer accept an emailed version and require an upload before they will even consider an application
Yes, I understand that a lot of companies will only have the upload option now. But to give an example of what we encountered, the OH is a specialist and world expert in the paper and ink industy, developing new products for the market. One "suitable" job for him at a company we uploaded his CV to was an Adminstrative Assistant.
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

Ynegve, the website still says that EU-17 nationals can move here and search for work for 3 months without a permit which is confusing to say the least. I've sent an e-mail to them to ask for clarification and will let you know what they say.
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Ynegve, the website still says that EU-17 nationals can move here and search for work for 3 months without a permit which is confusing to say the least. I've sent an e-mail to them to ask for clarification and will let you know what they say.
I'm amazed by the effort you put into helping a random person from the internet. Thank you.

My wife is EU-17, if that makes a difference.
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

No problem Ynegve. We get a lot of people asking so making sure the info is correct will help us from causing unnecessary worry for any enquirers. If you'd moved a few months ago, it wouldn't have been a problem, but with the new regulations coming in on 1st May it seems to have changed things. But as one part seems to say one thing and a bit further down it says something different it's best to check.
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

Also, depending on whether you're EU or not you might need a D-visa to enter the country with your wife before you can apply for a residence permit.
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

Okay, BFM have replied and it seems that EU nationals can still come here as job seekers for 3 months. Here's what they said:

"Thank you for your e-mail. We would like to inform you that both answers, No 3 and No 6, are correct. The difference between these answers are the type of permit. If you arrive in Switzerland with a contract of employment you will receive either a permit L (short term work permit) or a permit B (work contract for one year or more). If you travel to our country in order to find a job (job seeker), you will receive a permit that only allows you to stay in Switzerland but not to work."

So she can come and look for a job.
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Re: Posting my CV and detailed information on job webistes

I don't know if I like the idea of uploading my CV to a website - it would probably be stored somewhere even after you've removed it. Maybe I'm just over cautious. I found replying directly was the best option and even ended up with 2 offers.
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