Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Employment  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:27
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZURICH
Posts: 5
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jay8794 has no particular reputation at present
What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Hi to everyone,

My name is Jay, I am looking to work in Switzerland or UK, evaluating which could give me more savings(income minus living expenses).

I am a computer science undergraduate with 2-year work experience and 1.5-year start up business experience. The start up project was an online drag and drop website builder and sharing platform, a bit like wix without the shopping cart part but with mobile site builder and some other differences. The project consists of 30k+ lines of javascript(on top of Yahoo ui 3 and a little jquery) and about 20k lines of Java code, and I was the sole author of the project.

My main technology strengths are :
1. Java web develpment

2. Spring, play framework 2, akka, domain driven design

3. Familiar with the java memory model, performance tuning and java 7 concurrency

4.Mongodb, Oracle

5. Modular & event driven javascript development with Yahoo UI 3 & Jquery. Performance oriented

6. Css skills

What salary level should I expect in Switzerland for a permanent role ? What about a contractor? What companies will most likely be interested in me? What are the average living expenses in Switzerland like?

Thanks for any pointer or opinion.

Kind regards,
Jay
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:30
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 7,970
Groaned at 289 Times in 218 Posts
Thanked 17,915 Times in 6,289 Posts
k_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

exactly 120k
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank k_and_e for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:34
slammer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Lummerland
Posts: 5,244
Groaned at 137 Times in 96 Posts
Thanked 9,046 Times in 3,422 Posts
slammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond reputeslammer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Hey! Give the guy a chance before you tear him to pieces.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank slammer for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:42
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZURICH
Posts: 5
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jay8794 has no particular reputation at present
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
exactly 120k
Thanks for the quick reply.
$CHF 120k seems a bit high to me as I got NZD$65k(about $CHF 50k+) while I was working at new zealand 2 years ago. What are the living expenses like?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:42
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 21,632
Groaned at 384 Times in 296 Posts
Thanked 16,578 Times in 9,364 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

More info from you would help. Are you an EU or non-EU national? Makes a big difference in getting a permit to work here for a start.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:48
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZURICH
Posts: 5
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jay8794 has no particular reputation at present
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
More info from you would help. Are you an EU or non-EU national? Makes a big difference in getting a permit to work here for a start.
I hold a new zealand passport so i should be entitled to work in EU legally.
Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09.09.2013, 09:48
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZURICH
Posts: 5
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jay8794 has no particular reputation at present
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
Hey! Give the guy a chance before you tear him to pieces.
I am sorry I don't understand your point.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09.09.2013, 10:05
hannah'sauntie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Baden
Posts: 4,755
Groaned at 24 Times in 22 Posts
Thanked 6,648 Times in 3,007 Posts
hannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
Hey! Give the guy a chance before you tear him to pieces.
Quote:
View Post
I am sorry I don't understand your point.
Salary threads appear regularly here, there is a standing joke about 120,000 chf being the amount we all should, and indeed do , earn.

http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=Salary
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09.09.2013, 10:07
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 29,654
Groaned at 2,098 Times in 1,566 Posts
Thanked 35,426 Times in 16,804 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
I hold a new zealand passport so i should be entitled to work in EU legally.
Switzerland is not part of the EU.

Tom
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #10  
Old 09.09.2013, 10:26
Island Monkey's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wallis
Posts: 4,809
Groaned at 82 Times in 49 Posts
Thanked 4,892 Times in 2,293 Posts
Island Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

In general, I think most people are better of in CH than in the UK. Cost of living is higher, but salaries are a lot higher too. People will just be guessing at figures,best thing is to wait for a job offer then figure out if its enough to live off, as costs such as taxes, housing, insurance vary vastly from Kanton to Kanton.

Switzerland is not an EU country. As a non EU passport holder, you need to secure a job offer, then that company has to apply for a residence permit for you & prove that they couldn't find an EU citizen to do the job, before your permit will be approved.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09.09.2013, 10:37
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 21,632
Groaned at 384 Times in 296 Posts
Thanked 16,578 Times in 9,364 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
Switzerland is not part of the EU.

Tom
True, it's not so don't confuse EU rules with Switzerland's. As a non-EU national it'll be much more difficult for you to get a job than an EU national would have. It's not impossible, but just remember you are last in the jobs queue. Employers have to consider Swiss and EU nationals first and spend a considerable amount of time and money proving to the Swiss authorities that they can't find one.

http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...zulassung.html
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09.09.2013, 10:40
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: ZURICH
Posts: 5
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jay8794 has no particular reputation at present
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Thanks guys for the info. I should do some readings on the work permit matter. Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09.09.2013, 10:45
taskalem's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 242
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 160 Times in 96 Posts
taskalem is considered knowledgeabletaskalem is considered knowledgeabletaskalem is considered knowledgeable
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

In my opinion UK is the worst place to work in terms of salary versus cost of living.

Dear OP, there are a lot of threads about prices in Switzerland and with careful search you can find a lot of salary research + expected cost of living papers issued by finance firms. Create your own understanding of the prices.

But if you are unfamiliar to Switzerland let me summarize it to you:
If you are earning above 100K, able to do a lot of handcraft alone (basically if you can repair anything in your apartment) and go to shopping in FR or DE; then you could be saving 1/4 - 1/3 of your salary.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09.09.2013, 14:33
cst cst is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zürich
Posts: 184
Groaned at 13 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 103 Times in 51 Posts
cst has no particular reputation at present
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
Thanks for the quick reply.
$CHF 120k seems a bit high to me as I got NZD$65k(about $CHF 50k+) while I was working at new zealand 2 years ago. What are the living expenses like?
Living costs in Zurich are basically the same as in Auckland. Some things are a little more expensive, some things a little less. But the salaries in Zurich are on average just over twice those in Auckland. I'd say you should be looking at between 90-100k CHF, which would make you very comfortable. When I was in that range I was able to save 40% of my salary easily (despite taking more holidays etc).

But you need to get the visa situation sorted out, as having a NZ passport doesn't guarantee you anything here or elsewhere in Europe. You might as well have come from the Congo or North Korea.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09.09.2013, 15:02
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 29,654
Groaned at 2,098 Times in 1,566 Posts
Thanked 35,426 Times in 16,804 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
If you are earning above 100K, able to do a lot of handcraft alone (basically if you can repair anything in your apartment) and go to shopping in FR or DE; then you could be saving 1/4 - 1/3 of your salary.
Could be, perhaps.

Do, no.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09.09.2013, 15:17
baboon's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rheintal
Posts: 4,214
Groaned at 160 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 7,336 Times in 3,356 Posts
baboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the average salary for a mid level java web developer?

Quote:
View Post
Switzerland is not part of the EU.

Tom
Actually neither is New Zealand. So that's a double no.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Average salary for a mid level screen / web designer in Zurich Guest Employment 9 09.08.2012 15:52
What is the salary level for low cost country sourcing manager position benlwu Employment 3 31.05.2008 22:08


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 18:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0