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From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

I tried to search the forum for the rules and regulations but failed to find an answer to my question.

Basically, my work contract ends soon, I am looking for a new job and I will be getting unemployment pay after my current contract is finished. Then I'll have a baby and will be transferred to maternity pay for 14 weeks as stated on the RAV website. As soon as my maternity leave is over I want to start looking for a new job again and get unemployment pay to be able to pay for the child daycare to be able to look for a job (a vicious circle).

The question is: when do I have to start applying for a job to be able to get unemployment pay after my 14 weeks of maternity leave end?

With employment it is clear: it's 3 months before the contract ends.

But what are the RAV requirements for when to start applying for jobs after maternity leave? Is there an exempt period, such as, e.g., 8 weeks after birth? And if I want to stay at home with a baby for a few more months then when do I have to start looking for a new job in this case? Is it one, two, three months in advance, or straight after 8 weeks of maternity?

Basically, I will be looking for a suitable job as soon as I can, but I don't want to be applying for 8-12 jobs a month to satisfy RAV and have my child in a daycare if I don't have to. I have limited number of companies to apply to and the HR in these companies don't really like it if one applies too often and to a broad range of position.

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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

There are regulations on this. You need to start looking for jobs from the 7th week after the birth and from the 15th week you begin in earnest with the RAV.
If you don't have your child in daycare or daycare arrangements you won't be able to get unemployment benefits. I think you have to sign an official form that you have daycare arrangements in place in order to obtain the benefits. The RAV argument is that you must be available for work, and to be honest looking for jobs is a job in itself!
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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

Dear eireann,
Thanks a lot for the information! That is what I needed!
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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

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Dear eireann,
Thanks a lot for the information! That is what I needed!
I would have at least some applications going back 3 months, otherwise there is a possibility they will fine you 5-10 days today is generally very common
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I would have at least some applications going back 3 months, otherwise there is a possibility they will fine you 5-10 days today is generally very common
Thanks fatmanfilms,

I guess it's especially important to stick with 3 months of applications if I want to stay at home with a baby for some time after maternity leave ends. If I want to get on unemployment pay straight after maternity leave of 14 weeks, I guess, like eireann said, I need to start looking from 7th week. It makes sense, otherwise I will have to start looking for a job 2 weeks after the birth to satisfy 3-months period. I might be in the hospital still, hope not!
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Thanks fatmanfilms,

I guess it's especially important to stick with 3 months of applications if I want to stay at home with a baby for some time after maternity leave ends. If I want to get on unemployment pay straight after maternity leave of 14 weeks, I guess, like eireann said, I need to start looking from 7th week. It makes sense, otherwise I will have to start looking for a job 2 weeks after the birth to satisfy 3-months period. I might be in the hospital still, hope not!
If your in hospital you won't have to apply, however you need to show that you have been looking for as long as possible or you risk some punishment.
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If your in hospital you won't have to apply, however you need to show that you have been looking for as long as possible or you risk some punishment.
Not if there is a rule saying you only have to start applying after the first 6 weeks of mat leave, as eireann believes. If thats the case (It will be written down somewhere if it is) you can take your 6 weeks 'off' after the birth and then resume job-hunting without any penalty.
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Not if there is a rule saying you only have to start applying after the first 6 weeks of mat leave, as eireann believes. If thats the case (It will be written down somewhere if it is) you can take your 6 weeks 'off' after the birth and then resume job-hunting without any penalty.
However you may get a penalty for some other reason.......the quality of applications will be used for example.
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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

As I've been in this situation myself, I have discussed and have the documents from the RAV. For the 8 weeks prior to the birth and the 6 weeks after it you are not obliged to search for jobs. Until the 15th week you don't have any appointments with the RAV, but you must have started looking for jobs and have childcare in place (this seems to be very important!!) by the 15th week.
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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

Swissberg, if you know for sure that you'll be unemployed/on maternity leave, and your maternity leave is not being paid by your employer, then you should register with the RAV before the birth (I think legally obliged to anyway to receive your maternity benefit (??)). At any rate, there are so many documents to gather that it's preferable to have it done before the birth.
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As I've been in this situation myself, I have discussed and have the documents from the RAV. For the 8 weeks prior to the birth and the 6 weeks after it you are not obliged to search for jobs. Until the 15th week you don't have any appointments with the RAV, but you must have started looking for jobs and have childcare in place (this seems to be very important!!) by the 15th week.
I was also in a very similar situation. I cant remember exactly when my first appointment with RAV was but it was about 6 weeks after the baby was born. I do remember though that within the first 14 weeks after giving birth (during my maternity leave) I had 3 appointments with my RAV officer. I took my baby along to each appointment as they did not have to be in childcare. Perhaps each case and each RAV officer is different.
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Swissberg, if you know for sure that you'll be unemployed/on maternity leave, and your maternity leave is not being paid by your employer, then you should register with the RAV before the birth (I think legally obliged to anyway to receive your maternity benefit (??)). At any rate, there are so many documents to gather that it's preferable to have it done before the birth.
Thank you, eireann,
I registered with the RAV already and my first appointment will be in November. I am applying for jobs now as required by RAV. I guess at my first appointment with the RAV consult I'll find out about all the requirement they have. But thanks for your feedback. It's good to know what to expect in advance. So far I am sticking with your timelines: 8 weeks before and 6 weeks after birth - no job applications. Childcare organised from the 15th week. Thanks!

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I was also in a very similar situation. I cant remember exactly when my first appointment with RAV was but it was about 6 weeks after the baby was born. I do remember though that within the first 14 weeks after giving birth (during my maternity leave) I had 3 appointments with my RAV officer. I took my baby along to each appointment as they did not have to be in childcare. Perhaps each case and each RAV officer is different.
Thank you, Svenca, for sharing your experience. It's quite a lot to ask to come to the RAV appointments when you are on maternity leave, but I guess the RAV consultants have their rules and looks like different RAV consultants may have deviations on this rules. I'll see what mine will tell me when I see her/him in November. If I have to come to the appointments in the first 14 weeks so it be. I'll combine it with a nice walk through town.

I've been to RAV and they said I don't have to look for a job 6 weeks after the birth. Then I need to start applying for 1-2 jobs a week (basically I should start applying 8 weeks before the end of maternity leave). After my maternity leave ends I should have childcare organised and be applying for 3-4 jobs a week.

I have a new question: when I go to RAV after the maternity leave, how much will they pay me? As far as I understand they'll calculate the pay based on the average salary during the last 6 months. Would they take into account that for the last 14 weeks (3.5 months) I was getting the maternity leave which is 80% of my salary? Basically, will they pay me the 80% of my pre-maternity salary or the 80% of 80% maternity leave for 3.5 months + 80% of my pre-maternity salary from 2.5 months? In the latter scenario it will come up to 70% of my pre-maternity salary. It's not a big difference (80 or 70%), but when I have to pay for the full daycare every rappen matters.

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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

bump...similar question.

if you are on unemployment getting 80% of your previous salary and then have a baby, is the maternity benefit 80% of the 80%? or is it a different insurance and still 80% of the previous salary?

also, the 14 week maternity leave does not count towards the 18 months unemployment cap, correct?

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Re: From maternity leave to unemployment pay - when to start looking for a job?

The maternity leave benefit is separate from RAV/ALV. If you are expecting and currently receiving RAV/ALV unemployment compensation, you would normally be transferred to the Mutterschaftsurlaub benefit for 14 weeks and then return to RAV/ALV, assuming you don't find a job in the meantime. The 14 weeks of maternity leave benefit should not normally count against the 400 work-days (18.4 calendar months) of RAV/ALV. For more information, see this link:

https://www.ch.ch/en/maternity-leave/

If your RAV/ALV is higher than the maximum maternity leave benefit of CHF 196 per day, then you should receive 80% of the higher RAV/ALV amount. See p.18 of this brochure:

https://www.seco.admin.ch/seco/de/ho...hmerinnen.html

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I believe, but cannot document, that the 14 weeks counts against the two-year qualified period (Rahmenfrist) since interim work does.
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