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cremebrulee 20.02.2008 13:02

How many hours do you work?
 
Pursuant to my employment contract, I am required to work 41 hours and 15 minutes per week. I work mainly with Swiss colleagues, and have noticed that most only work their minimum hours (if not less), whilst there are others who may be classified as "workaholics" as they usually arrive at work around 7.30 and leave around 19.30. (Though, I do wonder how productive they are during this time)

In my old job in my home country, I used to work insane hours, sometimes up to 80 hours a week, which often went unnoticed and unrewarded. I repeated this pattern when I first moved to Switzerland, but my New Years' resolution has been work less and enjoy life more. I now try to only work my minimum hours, though I find I am still working an extra 1 or 2 hours a day. I am also taking German classes during the week, and need to devote time to that.

My boss (one of the "workaholics") has not raised any questions, though I sense that he is wondering why I am leaving "early". It could be purely psychological on my part, but I was wondering what the expectations are for everyone else in their workplace.

Do you all work your minimum hours or do your feel an obligation/expectation to work extra hours? Are there different expectations in Switzerland?

rhythmical remedy 20.02.2008 13:07

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
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How many hours do you work?
Can I include online time in it? :o Where I work people look funny when you leave on time. So I leave 10 minutes after the official time ;)

Woodsie 20.02.2008 13:16

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
Things are pretty busy at the moment so I have been working my full minimum hours of 42 for the last few weeks. But usually I sit between 35 and 39, which is still too many in my mind.

I am a contractor on an hourly rate, so that gives me the flexibility.

I never work extra hours without compensation. If I need to, my manager isn't doing their job right, and I'm not sacrificing my life for his/her incapability.

Though I do accept that there are times in your career where you need to work harder to advance your career, but that counts as a form of compensation for the extra effort.

cyrus 20.02.2008 13:21

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
All my hours are recorded and they're expected to be correct at the end of the year. So normally, I work 8:30 to 5:30, but occasionally I have to put extra hours in, when this happens, I can leave early another day, or just build them up for extra holidays.

20.02.2008 13:22

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
I'm at work 40 hours a week, exactly how many of those hours I'm actually working is hard to say..
(boss might be reading this forum ;) )

tomcat 20.02.2008 13:22

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
I am a regular employee, 42 hrs a week. I don't get paid for overtime. I have 2 little kids at home, so I rarely work over 45 hrs a week, else they are asleep when I get home.

Some colleagues frown or make little comments to me or other co-workers when I leave at 5 PM. I don't care. I get my job done, I do it well, and being in the office for an extra 1 or 2 or 3 hours a day is going to decrease, not increase my productivity.

Sidenote - I have never in a prior job in Germany or in the U.S. felt as observed as I feel here. Seems everybody is keeping track of my timecard but me.

Lob 20.02.2008 13:24

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
I must work at least 2000 and not more than 2200 hours per year. That's just over 8 a day.

I manage my time accordingly and have flexible upper-management who allow me to do this - I thus work very effectively when and where I want.

As I do not get paid for overtime, I try to maintain a good balance somewhere in the middle of expectations. And as I am happy at home, I have no problem leaving ;)

peachy 20.02.2008 13:27

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
40 hours per week because that's what it says on my contract right?

If I need to work later it's no big deal and I do it, it doesn't happen so often in this role. I have a few late ones a month when I have a release and that's about it.

20.02.2008 13:40

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
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Originally Posted by Woodsie (Post 176143)
I never work extra hours without compensation. If I need to, my manager isn't doing their job right, and I'm not sacrificing my life for his/her incapability.

This is so true I've lost count of the number of times I've approached this in companies with managers, normally their underestimates look good on them, but it's a pain in the ass for everyone else. :)

Woodsie 20.02.2008 13:43

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Originally Posted by peachy (Post 176155)
40 hours per week because that's what it says on my contract right?

If I need to work later it's no big deal and I do it, it doesn't happen so often in this role. I have a few late ones a month when I have a release and that's about it.

Yes, sometimes there are tasks that need to be completed after hours. But I always find a way to retrieve that time.

krlock3 20.02.2008 13:49

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
i put in on average 50 hours per week. i dont know what my contract says.

i have been on the receiving end of sarcastic comments due to the fact that apparently i dont put enough hours in.

10 hours commute per week on top of this.

maybe the original poster can add the poll function... would make a more interesting thread.

Castro 20.02.2008 13:50

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
The company I am joining have a clock-in system where your time is logged. Anything over 40 hours a week can be banked as annual leave (upto 120 hours per year). This is the first time I've ever encountered this, but it does seem like a fairly equitable system.

Dodger 20.02.2008 14:01

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
8 hours per day is standard for me. But any excess time can be used as time off later. Working on weekends is different, but I haven't had to do that yet and don't plan to.

Generally I try to do 8.5 hours per day so I can gradually build up a good reserve of free time. Since you don't get as many work holidays here in Switzerland compared to some other countries (the Netherlands was fantastic in this respect), it's always good to build up extra days if you can.

smackerjack 20.02.2008 14:01

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
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Originally Posted by Castro (Post 176172)
The company I am joining have a clock-in system where your time is logged. Anything over 40 hours a week can be banked as annual leave (upto 120 hours per year). This is the first time I've ever encountered this, but it does seem like a fairly equitable system.


I used to work for a firm with the clock in system but I joined in the summer and everybody had to work an extra 21 minutes a day so they could have the Xmas & New year off. I had to work to make up 21 minutesx7 months before Dec. I used to put my card in and it was minus loads of hours for months. So to anyone out there, try to start work early in the year in case your firm adopt that way of working.

Richard 20.02.2008 14:04

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
Isn't life a breeze. I am a time management freak and therefore watch every minute I work and for whom. I don't necessarily bill it but I like to know the level of fat I have with each client... As for hours per day or week. I usually work 14-16 hours per day and 6-10 on Saturdays and Sundays... You can do the maths. And I never work unless I am being productive, although if I am at a client site and have to "sit" the time out I will work on other things...

Polorise 20.02.2008 14:14

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
at the moment work for me consists of looking through various job sites, however previously I averaged around 60 hrs a week, with compensation for foreign trips, i.e. 1 day return for a three day trip or 2 days return for working a weekend day.

they did have a clock in clock out system, but all the guys in Sales - Biz Dev built up overtime at a fast pace & they decided it was better to give days in lieu rather than pay us for it.

as a side note, I know a consultant who works on contract for a major Swiss telco firm, his apartment is two minutes walk from his place of work. He regularly saunters back into the office around 8.30pm to clock out ... ;)

smithash 20.02.2008 14:18

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
I arrive at 05:30 normally leaving at 18:00 but I only work 2000 or so hours per year the rest is holidays.
ash

Worrelpa 20.02.2008 14:19

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
It always bothered me about people watching you leave the office before them.
Now, for me it doesn't matter how many hours I work a day as long as the job gets done and done well. So if it means overtime sometimes sure, just as long as I get the time back later on. e.g. I work a full day Saturday then I take the following Friday off. :msntongue:

smithash 20.02.2008 14:21

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
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Originally Posted by Polorise (Post 176189)
I know a consultant who works on contract for a major Swiss telco firm, his apartment is two minutes walk from his place of work. He regularly saunters back into the office around 8.30pm to clock out ... ;)



I used to stay in the Krebs hotel in Genfergasse and work at swisscom this was quite a common phenomenom :D

ash

Guest 20.02.2008 14:32

Re: How many hours do you work?
 
I'm timetabled for just over 41 hours, although with preparation and paperwork that comes to 45 or more per week.

But then I get 8 weeks' holiday every year, so it's not all bad!

:D


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