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Medical Physics jobs

apologies for the blanket request, but due to move here in the summer with my wife and she is looking for jobs in medical physics. Does anyone have any recommendations as to where to start?

We have performed a general Google search and registered with the various recruitment websites, but wondering if anyone has any more specific guidance for a more targeted approach to jobs in this sector.

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Old 04.02.2014, 11:25
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Not sure what medical physics covers, but if it's practising in the medical industry then she'd probably need to get any qualifications recognised.


http://www.sbfi.admin.ch/diploma/017...x.html?lang=en

Also, if she isn't already, she really should become fluent in at least one of Switzerland's 4 official languages. This would be a definite requirement for doctors, nurses, etc, so if she falls within that sort of category she won't get a job without the necessary language skills.
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Sort of depends on the sort of work she's used to doing. Does she work in patient care, research, etc. is she an MD, PhD or technician with an MS or some other training. I'd look at med schools, public health departments and some of the fachocschule. Also hospitals in the area.
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Re: Medical Physics jobs

Hi,

I have a similar question to OP My boyfriend is about to complete his MSc Medical Physics in Australia (no certification from TEAP yet https://www.acpsem.org.au/Our-Work/TEAP-Certification).

We plan to move to either Switzerland, France, or Germany next year.
  1. How difficult would it be for him to find a job as a medical physics in a hospital?
  2. Are there medical physics jobs (hospital, research etc) that do not require certification from SSRMP?
  3. How long will the training/residency take? Does it have to be in the hospital he'll apply for?
  4. Would it be possible for him to work in Switzerland but live in France / Germany? (say, getting a G permit)

Thankfully, we still have time to learn French/German.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Medical Physics jobs

I have not heard of this term "medical physics" here in Switzerland. On the link you posted, it said: "Medical Physics has four main specialised areas: Radiation Oncology, Nuclear Medicine, Radiology and Radiation Safety."

As I understand it, all of these areas would be the work of either
  • a radiologist (= a qualified medical doctor specialised in Radiology) or
  • a radiology nurse (= a nurse with a four-year qualification). "Dipl. Radiologiefachfrauen HF/dipl. Radiologiefachmänner HF führen radiologische Untersuchungen und Therapien gemäss ärztlichem Auftrag durch.

Is your partner's qualification one of those?

EDIT: Okay, sorry, I went back to look up more of the SSRMP website. In short, since it is defined (even though I hadn't heard of it before, no matter, that's just a gap in my knowledge, sorry) very thoroughly, I doubt very much that anyone would be allowed to work in this field without having had their qualification fully recognised by the this professional organisation. And that would include a language requirement. As I admit, I'm writing from a position of not knowing this field, but the Swiss processes of recognition for doctors and nurses all have a language requirement, and that makes sense. There are no English-only jobs in medical fields, here.

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Re: Medical Physics jobs

What nationalities do you and your partner have?
  • If Swiss or EU, good.
  • If non-EU, any potential employer will have to demonstrate that they have tried but failed to fill the available post with a Swiss person, or with an EU person, or with a person already living in Switzerland... and only thereafter is a non-EU person even considered. That's not easy to achieve. And almost impossible if the person does not speak the local language.

The exception to this is if the person has a niche skill.
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I have not heard of this term "medical physics" here in Switzerland. On the link you posted, it said: "Medical Physics has four main specialised areas: Radiation Oncology, Nuclear Medicine, Radiology and Radiation Safety."

As I understand it, all of these areas would be the work of either
  • a radiologist (= a qualified medical doctor specialised in Radiology) or
  • a radiology nurse (= a nurse with a four-year qualification). "Dipl. Radiologiefachfrauen HF/dipl. Radiologiefachmänner HF führen radiologische Untersuchungen und Therapien gemäss ärztlichem Auftrag durch.

Is your partner's qualification one of those?

EDIT: Okay, sorry, I went back to look up more of the SSRMP website. In short, since it is defined (even though I hadn't heard of it before, no matter, that's just a gap in my knowledge, sorry) very thoroughly, I doubt very much that anyone would be allowed to work in this field without having had their qualification fully recognised by the this professional organisation. And that would include a language requirement. As I admit, I'm writing from a position of not knowing this field, but the Swiss processes of recognition for doctors and nurses all have a language requirement, and that makes sense. There are no English-only jobs in medical fields, here.
If a doctor

Please contact:
Federal Office of Public Health (FOPH)
MEBEKO
3003 Bern
+41 58 462 94 83
www.foph.admin.ch

If a nurse or Radiologic technologist

Please contact:
Swiss Red Cross (SRC)
3084 Wabern
+41 58 400 44 84 (Mo-Fr, 08.00am-12.00am)
www.redcross.ch

to get qualifications recognised before they'd be able to work here. Note that recognition can take time, up to 2 years in some reports here on the forum.

https://www.sbfi.admin.ch/sbfi/en/ho...lificatio.html

As doropfiz said they'd need a minimum of B2 language proficiency in at least one Swiss language if not more, depending on where you plan to move to.

Non-EU hiring criteria is laid out here

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html
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apologies for the blanket request, but due to move here in the summer with my wife and she is looking for jobs in medical physics. Does anyone have any recommendations as to where to start?

We have performed a general Google search and registered with the various recruitment websites, but wondering if anyone has any more specific guidance for a more targeted approach to jobs in this sector.

Thanks
Others have answered issues regarding qualifications language etc. The fully private sector may have different requirements to the cantonal hospitals and clinics
For job-hunting; being here, talking to people, cold-calling or letter writing is the way to go. The swiss health system depends on foreign workers in all sectors and it can be a case of being in the right place at the right time.
Good luck
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Others have answered issues regarding qualifications language etc. The fully private sector may have different requirements to the cantonal hospitals and clinics
For job-hunting; being here, talking to people, cold-calling or letter writing is the way to go. The swiss health system depends on foreign workers in all sectors and it can be a case of being in the right place at the right time.
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Well, considering the person you quoted did so back in 2014 I would hope they've figured things out by now
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What nationalities do you and your partner have?
  • If Swiss or EU, good.
  • If non-EU, any potential employer will have to demonstrate that they have tried but failed to fill the available post with a Swiss person, or with an EU person, or with a person already living in Switzerland... and only thereafter is a non-EU person even considered. That's not easy to achieve. And almost impossible if the person does not speak the local language.

The exception to this is if the person has a niche skill.
Well, I don't think that the same rule will apply to the British after Brexit. Things are going to change.
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Well, I don't think that the same rule will apply to the British after Brexit. Things are going to change.
For the remainder of the year a job contract will be enough. Regulations afterwards is an unknown and (this is just my guess based on how BoJo handled the whole thing so far) likely to remain that well into December.
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[*]How difficult would it be for him to find a job as a medical physics in a hospital?
Not too easy. A position must be open at the time he is searching. Unfortunately it's not like SW where any startup can create a number of new positions in a short time.
There were a couple at University Hospital Zurich two months ago, in Oncology (for Radiotherapy I suppose).

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[*]Are there medical physics jobs (hospital, research etc) that do not require certification from SSRMP?
In some circumstances it can happen, but getting the SSRMP certification is very likely to become part of the duties, particularly if the position is mandated by law and subject to supervision by the ministry (BAG), e.g. when a clinic needs a certified person to overlook the dosimetry service.

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[*]How long will the training/residency take? Does it have to be in the hospital he'll apply for?
The certification process is not a full-time course, it's more like some monthly seminars plus documented activity in the hospital and some final report. Publishing on the subject helps. Let's say two to three years, can't be precise (minimum is 18 months). The trainee needs to find a mentor (a certified SSRMP Medical Physicist), usually in the same hospital, and together they draw a timeline.
Check this and similar documents on the same website:
https://ssrpm.ch/wp-content/uploads/...2015-11-13.pdf

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[*]Would it be possible for him to work in Switzerland but live in France / Germany? (say, getting a G permit)
To be discussed with the employer.

Regarding the language, usually English is not enough. Positions not requiring local language do exist, but then you will have to speak it anyways :-)
On the other side, English is not forbidden... some (most?) seminars belonging to the certification are in English, together with the associated communications. I guess it's just easier for them, than having the same seminar three times in the three national languages...

EDIT: a final note, let's consider that a Medical Physicist is not (necessarily) a Medical Doctor. He/She can be a Physicist, or a graduate from the MAS program at ETH. Some of the SSRMP seminars have a clinical content.

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[*]Would it be possible for him to work in Switzerland but live in France / Germany? (say, getting a G permit)[/LIST]
Thankfully, we still have time to learn French/German.

Thanks a lot!
If non-EU, no. The requirements for a non-EU G (cross border) permit are that you have to have permanent residency in the EU country (minimum of 5 years to get) and to have lived in a neighbouring border zone for at least 6 months.
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