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Old 25.09.2018, 21:15
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Re: Can RAV force you to take a job with a much lower pay (than last)?

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My goodness - this is worrying. Were they college educated working in a mid level position before? As Tom stated, my current salary is in the six figures...I couldn't imagine. Happy to clean toilets if I have to for survival, but otherwise nein danke.
I don't know all the details (not my place to ask those kind of questions). I know the interview was for an office job, but the person was offered a job as the office cleaning staff instead. Upon trying to decline such a job, the hiring manager said they would inform RAV that the person had declined a perfectly acceptable job for which they were qualified, which would then result in the applicant being heavily penalized. The salary was lower, and the work was not 100%.
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Re: Can RAV force you to take a job with a much lower pay (than last)?

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I guess it depends on your advisor. The times I've been on the RAV, they've never pushed a job onto me which is wildly out of the scope of my CV. If anything, they suggested jobs which were a bit of a stretch in my ability.

If they were to start suggesting low-skilled, low-paid jobs it certainly wouldn't be until you had been unemployed for at least a good few months with no sniff of a job or even an interview.

I've found the RAV mostly just helpful and supportive, and there to get you back to work without too much upheaval.

I had one advisor who was a bit of a self-important knob but, thankfully, I was only out of work for 2 months before I found a new position. The other two times I've been with the RAV, the advisors have always been great.
I have been sleeping on the introductory session but if I remember correctly after certain age they cannot force on you a job out of your profession. It's only if you are young and have short experience then you can and should try different career paths if you are stuck.
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Re: Can RAV force you to take a job with a much lower pay (than last)?

Hi, I am doing my research on the topic since very soon I need to face the RAV inspector and I am curious reading about your positive experience, do you speak German to be so flexible in your choices ?
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Yes, you will be expected to take any job similar to your experience. The good news is they cannot force you to work outside your industry. The RAV can also insist you travel up to 4 hours per day to the new job. Haven't you been awake during the indoctrination lectures? You can of course resign from the RAV.
How does this work with children? 4 hours per day? How am I supposed to find child-care for a toddler for that many hours per day?
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How does this work with children? 4 hours per day? How am I supposed to find child-care for a toddler for that many hours per day?
When you're on RAV, you have to prove you have childcare arranged such that you can work whatever % - otherwise they won't pay you because you're not available. Two hours each way is a long commute, but there's no guarantee you'll find a job that far away so try not to panic too much. You don't have to apply for jobs that are outside of what you consider a reasonable commute, but sometimes it helps in order to meet your quota.
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When you're on RAV, you have to prove you have childcare arranged such that you can work whatever % - otherwise they won't pay you because you're not available. Two hours each way is a long commute, but there's no guarantee you'll find a job that far away so try not to panic too much. You don't have to apply for jobs that are outside of what you consider a reasonable commute, but sometimes it helps in order to meet your quota.
No daycare would allow for 4 hours of transportation round-trip on a daily basis though. Most daycare are open for 10 hours (if you're lucky). Factoring in transportation with that, even 2 hours is pushing it. They may as well tell single parents not to bother looking. Even couples in this situation wouldn't have much luck. Can you imagine being the only one that could do all the drop-offs and pick-ups because your partner is gone for 12 hours per day?

I think this is a relic of the old idea that men aren't responsible for their kids.
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